There's clips from next week floating around and one that has a whisper at the start that sure as hell sounds like "The last centurion" or something similar.
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Oh, I'd been wondering where he was in all this. I've almost been hearing his dialogue in my head:
"You should have ended me. You should have thrown me into a star, or a black hole like Omega, when you had the chance. Did you really think I'd just quietly go away? Your kindness has always been your weakness, as the Master can attest - now it is your downfall. Look around you, and see what a REAL Lord of Time can do."
A few interesting bits in this episode, but its another one hurt by the fact that I don't care about the companions at all. I don't hate them, but I am apathetic towards them, more so then with any other companions. I guess technically that makes them better then, say, Clara, but at least her character made me feel something, even if it was extreme irritation 99% of the time. The guest characters were also just nothing. I did like the Cybermen stuff though, and the mystery of what is up with the portal, The Master and galifrey.
What really killed parts of this episode though were those stupid, useless cutaways to...Ireland, I guess? Maybe a fake Ireland? Maybe? Since I watched this episode on DVR, I basically skipped past them after the second one until the last one, which was obviously the only semi relevant one. I don't giver a single fuck what its setting up.
As for the preview, if its setting up the rumor I read that
then next episode will legitimately be the series finale for me, until (if that rumor is true) it gets completely reversed and Chibnall is gone. It is a total show ending fuck up for me, so it sure as hell better not be what happens.
Overall, I was going to give this episode a 6/10 for the Cybermen stuff and a kind of interesting mystery, but the shitty (Fake?) Ireland scenes drag it down to a 5/10. If that rumor comes to pass, then this would get marked down to a 2/10 retroactively.
What really killed parts of this episode though were those stupid, useless cutaways to...Ireland, I guess? Maybe a fake Ireland? Maybe? Since I watched this episode on DVR, I basically skipped past them after the second one until the last one, which was obviously the only semi relevant one. I don't giver a single fuck what its setting up.
As for the preview, if its setting up the rumor I read that
Chibnall is erasing The Doctor's history, which seems possible because it looks like she might be getting brain wiped in that preview
then next episode will legitimately be the series finale for me, until (if that rumor is true) it gets completely reversed and Chibnall is gone. It is a total show ending fuck up for me, so it sure as hell better not be what happens.
Overall, I was going to give this episode a 6/10 for the Cybermen stuff and a kind of interesting mystery, but the shitty (Fake?) Ireland scenes drag it down to a 5/10. If that rumor comes to pass, then this would get marked down to a 2/10 retroactively.
Agreed. I think a bit more should've been revealed in this episode. I also have worries that the Jo Doctor won't be explained. Hopefully she will. Otherwise it's a long wait and there's only so much teasing you can do.
His jokey tone didn't fit the serious tone of the episode. I still wish they'd go back to the suave, debonair Delgado style of Master. Increases the sense of danger tremendously.
I don't think Jack knows or is trying to stop humans becoming the Time Lords. The Cyberwar, the near destruction of both the humans and Cybermen, and humans entering the Boundary still occur. Those events occur whether or not the Lone Cyberman obtains the Cyberium. The Lone Cyberman is trying to resurrect the Cybermen after those events and their defeats.
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Nah, you'll be around bitching and complaining until the end regardless of what happens in the next episode.
Nope. If that rumor is true, then the show will truly end, and will legitimately have no connection to the show that started in 1963. I haven't even watched half the episodes of this series, and the show is still technically Doctor Who at this point (barely, but still). With that rumor though, it just literally becomes a generic new sci fi show with no history, and that I have no problem dropping immediately.
I'll still call it shit and stuff like that, but I won't watch any episodes if that comes to pass, until it inevitably gets reversed when Chibnall finally fucks off.
1) Which half haven't you watched?
2) If we look at those episode threads, will we find you posting anyway?
3) If we do, will you fuck off forever because you've been outed as an utter hypocrite?
Of course you fucking won't.
You'll be here complaining as long as the show is on the air even if it's being written and produced by Sooty and Sweep, because that's your sole fucking purpose in life.
I don't wish you any real ill-will, but please consider another, healthier means of self-affirmation.
Like comparing yourself favourably to the coronavirus. Or cancer.
I mean, unlike cancer, we can put you on ignore and there's a limit to your posting rate.
So, that's a promise then?
Hm. I heard that before, before, during and after Series 11.
You then complained that it was not Doctor Who anymore already, just some bad generic Sci-fi show that usurped the name in a deliberate effort by the producers to utterly destroy the show.
What made you come back for Series 12?
Oh well, who doesn’t like a nice “greatest hits” revival, hm?
You then complained that it was not Doctor Who anymore already, just some bad generic Sci-fi show that usurped the name in a deliberate effort by the producers to utterly destroy the show.
What made you come back for Series 12?
Oh well, who doesn’t like a nice “greatest hits” revival, hm?
Cassandra was the last pure human.
Cybermen can only upgrade pure humans.
Salvation is that easy.
Cybermen can only upgrade pure humans.
Salvation is that easy.
Cassandra was the last human in the year 5 Billion AD. A lot of "pure" humans from now until then.
We don't know when the story is set.
It could be the year 4 billion AD.
Cassandra could have been in hibernation for 3 billion years.
Tochlophane vs. Cybermen.
It could be the year 4 billion AD.
Cassandra could have been in hibernation for 3 billion years.
Tochlophane vs. Cybermen.
It can also be heard in the credits/preview at the end of The Woman Who Fell to Earth.
I agree. I can not understand the logic of parking so far away and then having to haul slapped-together equipment all that way. Better yet, land in the colony, round up everyone into the TARDIS, and leave! It seems like the Who equivalent of Trek's head-scratching-inducing, "Kirk, We're sending the Enterprise out because -once again- she's the only ship we have available here to protect Earth and the Quadrant."
Then again, I should probably tell myself that it's just a show, and probably just relax.
.... But still! couldn't the writers have had the TARDIS land in the colony and find some plot complication to then make her inaccessible, if that is an important development for the story?
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My money is on the Tochlafane they are literally mini death stars, even their markings are like Star Wars.
Well the 80s Cybermen got a nice design update.
Y'know, I have to laugh at any sci-fi writer that speaks of humans millions/billions of years in the future (without the use of time travel, that is). Evolution don't work that way, folks. Nature's not going to look at our present form and say "Well, can't improve on perfection." It took less than 10 million years for a bunch of clever monkeys to climb down from the trees and become us. I don't know what our descendants 10 million years down the line will look, sound and act like, but there's two things I'm pretty sure they won't be like: The salamanders from the end of VOY: 'Threshold,' and us.
Anyway, to steer back on topic, I reckon this story can't be much more than 10,000 years in the future at the very latest. 'Nightmare in Silver' was estimated by TARDIS Wiki to be somewhere around 6200 AD.
Not only that Cassandra was little more then a skin blanket on a bed frame.. That's not evolution but genetic manipulation.
This was my problem with the episode. What possessed them? I can only imagine how the conversation went:
Doc: Right Fam, this is how it is. The last humans are out here, clinging on by a thread with their little finger. They’re counting on us. So, we either, land in the settlement, round them up safely in the Tardis and then whisk them away to er, I don’t know, say, Buffalo!? Love that word. Buffalo. We’ll take them for buffalo wings. My treat. I’ve always wanted to try buffalo wings, they sound filling...
Graham: Or?
Doc: Or what?
Yaz: You said either, buffalo wings or..,
Doc: You’re right. Option B right. We clobber some old junk together from the Tardis backroom, land a mile and a half away from where we need to be, with just enough time to announce ourselves to the last of humanity before the Cybermen attack. And see how we get on with a few coat hangers and a bottle of toilet duck.
Yaz: Those are the options Doc?
Doc: Nah, ignore me, a’m being daft again. I’ve already eaten.
Ryan, grab that colander will ya...
That's probably exactly the convo they had on the Tardis........... I'm stealing this it's perfect.
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