Artemis stacking begins
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So has it launched yet or another delay?
Fingers and toes crossed for a successful launch and test flight.
About 4am my time
About 4am my time
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It's not sounding good. Something is leaking.
Delayed again?
Not surprising — Cost Plus in action! (Or maybe Cost Plus Inaction would be a better term, sadly… lol)
Cheers,
-CM-
Not surprising — Cost Plus in action! (Or maybe Cost Plus Inaction would be a better term, sadly… lol)
Cheers,
-CM-
The slow roll begins.......... This has been kind of plagued with issues here and there.
Great…just great
https://www.space.com/artemis-1-moon-rocket-leak-weeks-repairs
https://spacenews.com/second-artemis-1-launch-attempt-scrubbed/
SLS’ core will burn out around shuttle ET altitude
https://up-ship.com/blog/?p=49988
Wet workshops were planed for them…SLS too. As it stands, it will be the largest object to fall to Earth in one piece.
SLS talk
http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=7727&p=3
SpaceX not without problems
https://spaceexplored.com/2022/09/26/nasa-evaluated-crew-4-heat-shield-degradation/
https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2022/09/starship-next-phase-of-testing/
https://www.space.com/artemis-1-moon-rocket-leak-weeks-repairs
https://spacenews.com/second-artemis-1-launch-attempt-scrubbed/
SLS’ core will burn out around shuttle ET altitude
https://up-ship.com/blog/?p=49988
Wet workshops were planed for them…SLS too. As it stands, it will be the largest object to fall to Earth in one piece.
SLS talk
http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=7727&p=3
SpaceX not without problems
https://spaceexplored.com/2022/09/26/nasa-evaluated-crew-4-heat-shield-degradation/
https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2022/09/starship-next-phase-of-testing/
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This is what happens when Congress orders you to use the aging skeletal remains of the space shuttle for your fancy new rocket system.
That makes it sound like they are trying to do this on the cheap
There is a certain logic to using existing hardware instead of building new from scratch. If the existing fully meets the requirements, why not?
The solid rocket boosters were something that NASA never originally wanted for crewed flight as once lit, they were fully committed to launch.
I think we will lucky to see this thing fly this year, probably early 2023.
Cheers,
-CM-
then get boeing to build it (past masters are re-using an old and existing components to build something "new").
Shuttle Derived HLLVs were looked at long before Congress listened. ALS/NLS, Magnum, CaLV, Ares V, Direct, Aquila, DSD, Ares V-lite, Shuttle-C, etc. Bill Eoff worked on Magnum…some talked about a Saturnski with RD-180s…but that’s out of the question.
Let’s take a look back to page 29 of the August 10, 2009 issue of AVIATION WEEK & SPACE TECHNOLOGY where Bohan Bejmuk…an Augustine panelist said he “became more appreciative of the wisdom of Ares V…”
—or page 24 of the November 7, 2011 issue that covered the “widely leaked NASA study report” that “concludes it would take 36 Delta IV Heavy flights to deliver fuel to a space-based depot…at least 24 launches of the Falcon 9 Heavy…
Starship refueling profile is a lot like this
https://forum.cosmoquest.org/forum/...oration/51468-fly-me-to-the-moon-on-a-shuttle
Depots can cost you as much as HLLVs
https://www.thespacereview.com/article/1447/1
https://www.spacesafetymagazine.com/space-exploration/deep-space/nasa-strongly-in-orbit-fuel-depots/
Something else to consider. The new spacers want to use this latest leak as an excuse to attack SLS. But this leak is on the ground.
What happens it a refueling Starship faces a similar problem in orbit…what hazards come out of that?
Let’s take a look back to page 29 of the August 10, 2009 issue of AVIATION WEEK & SPACE TECHNOLOGY where Bohan Bejmuk…an Augustine panelist said he “became more appreciative of the wisdom of Ares V…”
—or page 24 of the November 7, 2011 issue that covered the “widely leaked NASA study report” that “concludes it would take 36 Delta IV Heavy flights to deliver fuel to a space-based depot…at least 24 launches of the Falcon 9 Heavy…
Starship refueling profile is a lot like this
https://forum.cosmoquest.org/forum/...oration/51468-fly-me-to-the-moon-on-a-shuttle
Depots can cost you as much as HLLVs
https://www.thespacereview.com/article/1447/1
https://www.spacesafetymagazine.com/space-exploration/deep-space/nasa-strongly-in-orbit-fuel-depots/
Something else to consider. The new spacers want to use this latest leak as an excuse to attack SLS. But this leak is on the ground.
What happens it a refueling Starship faces a similar problem in orbit…what hazards come out of that?
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The Artemis Rocket is a waste of money for it is all old technology being recycled. We are not advancing mankind in this project just an expensive photo op... We should be sending sailing vessels to the methane seas of Titian. We should sending drilling machine to drill down to the waters of Europa... We can send a star ship the size of a Iphone using light sails and lazers to other solar systems but instead we choose to relive an old dream with old tech doing nothing to advance man...
All the technologies you mentioned aren't going to get the first step, Earth orbit. An iPhone needs a power supply and solar cells aren't going to cut it for an interstellar trip. The Voyager spacecrafts are using radioisotope thermoelectric generators and will no longer have enough power for communications in ten years, mission duration 55 years.
While unmanned probes are getting better at gathering information, our nature is to explore. To physically go where no one else has. And ultimately our very survival may require us to venture out from our home in search of a new one and hopefully, we won't fuck it up as we did the old one.
If you look up atomic or nuclear batteries many last way beyond 50 years... Once a starship leave earth it 70 years to closes solar system using light sails and lasers... We could send a object the size of an iPhone... Its over man in space...
The colonist answer to saving mankind...
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