yeah, I've been there - gathering the family around the computer or ipad isn't yet on the logistical menu here, though. It'd be nice if our TV or Tivo had an app for that.
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yeah, I've been there - gathering the family around the computer or ipad isn't yet on the logistical menu here, though. It'd be nice if our TV or Tivo had an app for that.
I normally watch CW shows on either Hulu or On Demand (since my OD channel finally started carrying The CW this season), because it's the only way I can see the full picture, given that my local CW station doesn't broadcast in a way that shows up letterboxed on my old non-widescreen TV. But this week, OD is slow to put them up, and my computer problems are somehow preventing me from watching Hulu streams smoothly, so I had to settle for watching them on TV with the sides of the picture chopped off. I need to buy a new computer and, ideally, an Internet-capable widescreen TV.
Anyway, about the episode... At first I was wondering, "Why doesn't Laurel run for mayor? She's the one who's actually a member of city government, as a DA." But then I saw her choosing to be honest with her dad by just springing the surprise of his chained-up, feral, resurrected zombie daughter on him with no advance warning, and I remembered... Laurel can always be counted on to make the worst possible decisions about anything. So maybe she's not a great choice for mayor. (Although she's overqualified to be a Republican presidential candidate.)
Interesting touch that the new Arrowcave used to be Sebastian Blood's evil lair. Have we seen that before? Heroes taking possession of a former villain headquarters and making it their own? I'm trying to think of examples, but nothing springs to mind, and TV Tropes isn't helping.
Oliver recovered quite effortlessly from having a knife stuck into his back. It looked to me like Warner had driven it in fairly deep, and yet he was walking around with no problem afterward.
Anyway, about the episode... At first I was wondering, "Why doesn't Laurel run for mayor? She's the one who's actually a member of city government, as a DA." But then I saw her choosing to be honest with her dad by just springing the surprise of his chained-up, feral, resurrected zombie daughter on him with no advance warning, and I remembered... Laurel can always be counted on to make the worst possible decisions about anything. So maybe she's not a great choice for mayor. (Although she's overqualified to be a Republican presidential candidate.)
Interesting touch that the new Arrowcave used to be Sebastian Blood's evil lair. Have we seen that before? Heroes taking possession of a former villain headquarters and making it their own? I'm trying to think of examples, but nothing springs to mind, and TV Tropes isn't helping.
Oliver recovered quite effortlessly from having a knife stuck into his back. It looked to me like Warner had driven it in fairly deep, and yet he was walking around with no problem afterward.
When Oliver and Felicity walked into the new place, Thea said "Oh my god! Where is it? Why aren't you wearing it?" Then everyone was puzzled and they moved on. Then later, Laurel asks Felicity what that was about and she didn't know.
What was going on there? Was it part of Thea's mental condition or was it something else?
What was going on there? Was it part of Thea's mental condition or was it something else?
Yeah, this.
Yep, that was my take. Thea probably knows that Ollie planned to propose to Felicity, a plan that was put on hold when they came back to Star City. And Felicity doesn't know that, which was why she had no idea what Thea was expecting. (I'd initially thought she was expecting Ollie to be wearing his costume, but once Laurel asked Felicity and she had no clue, I put it together.)
Speaking of wearing things, has Diggle's headgear suddenly changed from a full helmet to a strap-on mask? Or was it always like that?
Speaking of wearing things, has Diggle's headgear suddenly changed from a full helmet to a strap-on mask? Or was it always like that?
I thought so to, but in the next scene it was back to a helmet. i suspect it was a badly disguised stunt issue.
Farscape Moya
Friday the 13th: the series the antiques shop
X-Factor Apocalypse's Ship
New Warriors crash pad
Flash STAR labs
Angel offices of Wolfram & Hart
Deep Space Nine Terok Nor
On Lois & Clark the house they moved into when they got married was previously owned by a villain. It was introduced in "Brutal Youth" as the home of the female Doctor who experiments aged Jimmy Olsen. The episode that guest stared Jack Larson.
When Clark surprised Lois with buying the house after the Doctor was arrested, he says it has the rare advantage of having a secret compartment. The Doctor hide her "De-aging chambers" behind a concealed revolving door. Which Clark later used to hide his Superman costumes.
No, it was a half-helmet strapped on in back throughout the scene. It's just that it looked like a full helmet from the front. I imagine maybe David Ramsey found the full helmet too restrictive so they redesigned it.
Good list. I should've thought of DS9 at least. I'm not sure I'd count STAR Labs, though, since it was the heroes' HQ from the start; they just had a double agent in their ranks. (Although, yes, he was the guy who owned the HQ.)
And Moya's a ship rather than a base (as is the X-Factor thing too, I guess?), so that's sort of a different category. If we're counting ships, we could add the SDF-1 from Robotech (or whatever it was called in Macross), the Bounty from The Voyage Home, maybe the Raza in Dark Matter (if you count the crew pre-memory wipe as "enemies" of the crew post-memory wipe), maybe even the TARDIS (since the Time Lords have often been antagonists to the Doctor).
Really? Awesome. I never get to see those.
No doubt they wrote it that way so that they could save on set construction by having the sets serve double duty. Which might be part of why Arrow is reusing Blood's campaign office, I suppose, although it's been a while since we've seen it (the set was probably struck and stored).
I'm doing a Lois and Clark rewatch right now, but I intend to stop at the end of season 2, because I felt the latter two seasons got increasingly stupid and didn't treat the subject matter with respect. So I'm not going to get past the proposal.
Regarding Ollie running for mayor, I can't help but refer to Rob Ford as mayor here in Toronto. For two years he acted as mayor while regularly doing crack and hiring hookers to come to his office in city hall. It all fell apart, but he didn't have the advantage of Felicity. Seriously, Ollie could pull it off if his team was covering his bases.
Regarding Ollie's corporate issues, I don't expect TV to accurately represent reality, but Ollie is not broke or powerless. The events last season were more about taking away Ollie's power; he still has money. Between Ollie's shares and Felicity's shares they have near total control of the company. The have more than 50% of voting rights. As a publicly traded company they do have responsibilities to shareholders and cannot simply trash the company to support their personal agendas, but in practice they have all the resources they could wish for to be vigilantes. They don't have lay off anyone they don't want to. The issue they have is to present a plausible front for a company they actually could care less about. Same as any real life corporation.
Regarding Ollie's corporate issues, I don't expect TV to accurately represent reality, but Ollie is not broke or powerless. The events last season were more about taking away Ollie's power; he still has money. Between Ollie's shares and Felicity's shares they have near total control of the company. The have more than 50% of voting rights. As a publicly traded company they do have responsibilities to shareholders and cannot simply trash the company to support their personal agendas, but in practice they have all the resources they could wish for to be vigilantes. They don't have lay off anyone they don't want to. The issue they have is to present a plausible front for a company they actually could care less about. Same as any real life corporation.
Does Oliver have shares? Summer unloaded a lot of stock, but she also tanked the price doing it.
Oliver's personal portfolio may have been nonexistant since when he died his will would have given a lot of stuff away to "people". The Bulk of the "personal" wealth Oliver had before the island, and probably the wealth that had been intended to be willed to oliver upon Moira's death, was probably put into trust for Connor.
Thea made a sad point of not enjoying having to live on Malcolm's dirty money.
Oliver's personal portfolio may have been nonexistant since when he died his will would have given a lot of stuff away to "people". The Bulk of the "personal" wealth Oliver had before the island, and probably the wealth that had been intended to be willed to oliver upon Moira's death, was probably put into trust for Connor.
Thea made a sad point of not enjoying having to live on Malcolm's dirty money.
In the early 80s, in the wake of the mansion being temporarily destroyed, the X-Men spent some time based on Magneto's island.
It's a good thing Captain Lance is still on the side of justice, since they showed him the new Arrowcave right off the bat. 
^Don't get me wrong, I thought this was maybe their best episode since the end of Season 2, for exactly the scenes you highlighted. Paul Blackthorne totally hit it out of the park last night.
But I did have a "No, Ollie, don't!" moment when he brings Lance into the new hideout, since at that point we knew more than the heroes did about what's going on.
But I did have a "No, Ollie, don't!" moment when he brings Lance into the new hideout, since at that point we knew more than the heroes did about what's going on.
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