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Hehe. Thanks.

Maybe I'm trying to see how many purists I can piss off by injecting some military reality into Star Trek :)
 
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I love what you have done with the comm badges, rank insigina and uniforms
 
I like to play around with the miscellany of Trek. The stuff in the background that should be there, but we never really see them. And I like to put together novel things because I think they'd fit.
I know a lot of you guys expect like ship parts and weapons and stuff, but I hope that you'll find this stuff interesting also.
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CHRONOGRAPH
This was inspired by the Swatch "Infinity" watch. I don't think we've ever seen anyone wear or reference a watch in Trek, but I don't understand why they aren't there. Time is especially important to people, especially humans. And it's particularly important in a naval environment. This watch is primarily just a watch, but it would function to a limited degree like a PDA also. Mostly in the sending and receiving of messages and keeping schedules and such. It's connected to the ship's 'wifi' network that the PADDs are connected so, keeping it up to date and whatnot.
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LIGHTS
There's two different sets of lights here. The first is what I dubbed a "Hoverlight". I'm not a big fan of anti-gravity because I believe it's a problematic technology. From an engineering standpoint, if anything goes wrong with an AG-doodad, it's likely to go badly wrong. Still, I try to find less problematic ways to integrate AG.
This is the case with the hoverlight. I conceived it first as a piece of medical equipment, to give medics light to work with. But it obviously could have other applications. You can just activate it and hold it where you want it for a sec and it'll stay there, hovering and illuminating. Or you can toss it lightly into the air where it'll stay and brighten a larger area. Then you just deactivate it with a control and it'll lower itself slowly to you. Obviously, this would be a problematic device in high wind since it would just blow away.
The second is the wrist flashlight / beacon / lamp / whatever. The ones in the shows always look retarded. And seem especially so since they use big giant bulbs and we have ULEDs now. I went for a more robust, but yet streamlined and comfortable-looking version. It's got controls to adjust the beam, swap out the battery and an emergency button that would cause the beacon to flash at different wavelengths and probably emit a sound to help find you if you get lost somewheres (much like some emergency flashlights can).
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Vacuum
This is probably the most controversial of the set, hehe. But I don't buy a lot of the stuff stated in the show and I find Trek's crew numbers generally very small for the size of the ships. One way to account partially for low crew numbers and support what Riker said about the ship "cleaning itself" is to equip it with 'Roomba'-like cleaning robots. Conveniently built by the same iRobot corporation. :) They go about late at night tidying up the ship.
It ionizes the carpet fibers and sucks up the loosened dirt particles and incinerates them. No real need to empty it out. And it's got a little receptacle tray on the back there for anything it picks up that isn't dust or dirt/trash and doesn't get incinerated. If somebody loses an earring or something, for instance.
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I hope you guys enjoy little bits of miscellany like this. :) I have ideas for more miscellaneous coming soon to a theatre near you.
 
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I participated in a newsgroup discussion several years ago about the possibility of "Federation Marines" in the STAR TREK Universe. There seemed to be two camps: those were embraced the idea and wanted it to be militaristic (something beyond the combat troops from DS9) and those who hated the idea and saw no supporting evidence for it in the TREK Universe.

One really neat suggestion came out of it, though. It was suggested that some countries (and even some American expeditions) had a kind of crossover capability for their military; like the Sea Bees in the U.S. Navy from WW II forward, a naval unit would establish camp onshore, where the unit would become like an army or marine company and petty officers would become "platoon sergeants".

I always saw Starfleet as the primary defense and exploration arm of the Federation, and any ground forces would be subsidiary to that. Still, the "platoon sergeant" idea stuck with me, and I decided to call these contingent ground forces the StarFIREs (Star Fleet Itinerant Regiments and Expeditions). In 24th century and beyond, these units could include civilian specialists and families in their expeditions. But like the parent Starfleet naval arm, the StarFIREs were not a purely military operation, nor were they ever meant to conquer or occupy anything. Their role was more for security, defense, and to provide an appropriate organizational framework to establish expeditions and colonies or rescue operations were Starfleet Command deemed them necessary, at the behest of the Federation Council.

I do like your uniforms. Have you considered a tropical/desert Khaki version?
 
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This is kind of a tangent, but I'd be interested in a Trek alternate universe that's just a shade or two darker than canon Trek and has Starfleet more like a proper "navy." I think that can be done while maintaining the basic message about the maturation of humankind as a race and might tackle that subject in an interesting way by showing the "work in progress" rather than the mostly-perfect paragons of humanistic virtue we got in TNG.

There has been such an alternate version of Trek since 1979 - portrayed in the Star Fleet Universe.

The Star Fleet in that setting has a more 'naval' aspect (and has marines, too) while preserving the principles of interspecies co-operation and missions of exploration.

Plus, while there are various levels of government which interlock in the Federation (in their Earth, state-level goverments such as that of the USA are part of regional confederations, which are in turn part of a United Earth government, itself one of the planetary governments represented on the Federation Council) the Feds still have to worry with somewhat more mundane matters, such as managing the Federation's economy...


The upcoming Federation sourcebook for the Prime Directive RPG should have more info about their take on the UFP's inner workings, too.



...oh, and cool work in this thread, by the way, Konundrum!
 
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I participated in a newsgroup discussion several years ago about the possibility of "Federation Marines" in the STAR TREK Universe. There seemed to be two camps: those were embraced the idea and wanted it to be militaristic (something beyond the combat troops from DS9) and those who hated the idea and saw no supporting evidence for it in the TREK Universe.

One really neat suggestion came out of it, though. It was suggested that some countries (and even some American expeditions) had a kind of crossover capability for their military; like the Sea Bees in the U.S. Navy from WW II forward, a naval unit would establish camp onshore, where the unit would become like an army or marine company and petty officers would become "platoon sergeants".

I always saw Starfleet as the primary defense and exploration arm of the Federation, and any ground forces would be subsidiary to that. Still, the "platoon sergeant" idea stuck with me, and I decided to call these contingent ground forces the StarFIREs (Star Fleet Itinerant Regiments and Expeditions). In 24th century and beyond, these units could include civilian specialists and families in their expeditions. But like the parent Starfleet naval arm, the StarFIREs were not a purely military operation, nor were they ever meant to conquer or occupy anything. Their role was more for security, defense, and to provide an appropriate organizational framework to establish expeditions and colonies or rescue operations were Starfleet Command deemed them necessary, at the behest of the Federation Council.

I do like your uniforms. Have you considered a tropical/desert Khaki version?

Your idea has merit also, but frankly I believe there will always be a need for a standing army, especially if you've got as many enemies as the Federation seems to have.

As for the desert/khaki, I haven't tried that, but who knows. Just might. :) I had done a khaki version of the SF uniforms years ago for my ground-based sim, Xayvian.

This is kind of a tangent, but I'd be interested in a Trek alternate universe that's just a shade or two darker than canon Trek and has Starfleet more like a proper "navy." I think that can be done while maintaining the basic message about the maturation of humankind as a race and might tackle that subject in an interesting way by showing the "work in progress" rather than the mostly-perfect paragons of humanistic virtue we got in TNG.

There has been such an alternate version of Trek since 1979 - portrayed in the Star Fleet Universe.

The Star Fleet in that setting has a more 'naval' aspect (and has marines, too) while preserving the principles of interspecies co-operation and missions of exploration.

Plus, while there are various levels of government which interlock in the Federation (in their Earth, state-level goverments such as that of the USA are part of regional confederations, which are in turn part of a United Earth government, itself one of the planetary governments represented on the Federation Council) the Feds still have to worry with somewhat more mundane matters, such as managing the Federation's economy...


The upcoming Federation sourcebook for the Prime Directive RPG should have more info about their take on the UFP's inner workings, too.


...oh, and cool work in this thread, by the way, Konundrum!

This is very interesting, Nerroth - and far more in line with my general thinking than I expected to find in the Trek world.

I don't buy a lot of the propagandic hippie BS that TNG blighted Star Trek with so this sounds like a breath of fresh air.

And thanks. :)
 
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These images are wonderful. I was wondering if I could use them for some ideas?
 
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Sure, why not? :)

What do you want to use them for?
 
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I have a story that I call Gamma Force. One of my books is almost ready to turn into a PDF format, and I'd kind of like to add some images to it. Not a picture book exactly, but something.

I also have information about the story on the Star Trek: Expanded Universe site, but no pictures of crew. I've got a couple of marines who need combages and such. Just little details like that.
 
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This is very interesting, Nerroth - and far more in line with my general thinking than I expected to find in the Trek world.

I don't buy a lot of the propagandic hippie BS that TNG blighted Star Trek with so this sounds like a breath of fresh air.

And thanks. :)

No problem - and do feel free to pop over sometime and check it out, if you like!
 
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That stuff looks brilliant mate. It's a shame I never had the brainpower to really understand how tabletop games work. :(
 
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Well, they do have an RPG, too - and even a card-based combat game - but the most interesting part for me is the background the games repeesent and draw upon.


(Icy_Penguigo has seen his art added to ADB products, and I've been tryin to write a story good enough to go into their Captain's Log magazine. Maybe, one day, I might even get it right... or not.)
 
This may have been asked but where can I get one of those tricorders? It would come in handy here @ work!!

Great work but I gotta ask this because I do think about this stuff (why I don't knok) but how does the dolphin get into his/her uniform? I remember the idea of dolphins on starships from the TNG technical guide but never really thought of uniforms for them until now.
 
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You guys should have seen these a few days ago, but trekbbs was down. Apologies.

These aren't just for my ship. They're for the organization (Star Trek: Echoes, but obviously will be used aboard Ark Royal also for our players.

Design-wise, they're a mixture of designs inspired by real world awards, the very few pictures of canon ST awards I could find, great ideas by great artists that I've seen and hopefully some individual stuff as well.

I hope you guys enjoy them, and as always I'm happy to discuss the pros and cons of anything here.

(Note: The Letters of Commendation and their accompanying ribbons are translucent. The Temporal Accord medal is also translucent.)

A couple years ago I ran a huge six month arc called "Sanctum" for the fleet I was in in a previous organization. It was about an area of space called the Sanctum, and a race that lives in it. The Federation inducts a new member with a lot of territory, a powerful military and a bad history with these folks in the Sanctum. With the merging of the two territories, the Fed now surrounds the Sanctum. This leads to increased tensions, and ultimately a war between the Fed and the Synod (the Sanctum's inhabitants).

After the arc was completed (with a 3hr, 60-person IRC finale mission), all those characters that fought in the war received this.

Since I brought my character over from that org into Star Trek: Echoes , he still has it and I needed to redraw it to fit in with the others for STE. Heh.

Cdr_Hensley of Okudagrams.com asked for a time travel medal based on a ribbon he'd designed. I hope he doesn't mind that I kinda swiped it to toss it in with my lot too. :)


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Fabulous! I've always wanted to know what the Star Cross and the Legion of Honour looked like every since I saw that episode when I was about 10. Your work is lovely.
 
I like your variation of the purple heart. Good to know we're still acknowledging the sacrifices of those who fight for us, even in the 24th century
 
OMG!!! This is amazing!!!

But a few questions:

1.: Is this motion tablet work? If yes, I'll probably have to get one soon to improve my own work.
2.: May I ask what program you used?
3.: Are there any more Britannic/Ark Royal images coming? Maybe also deckplans?
 
Thanks Fried, I appreciate it.

1. Nope, no tablet. Just a regular mouse I'm afraid. I'm not good at freehanding so a tablet wouldn't be much use to me.

2. Illustrator CS3.

3. I need to finish up Britannic. I'm horrible with profile shots, which is why I haven't progressed on her - but it's what everybody wants. As for deck plans, a buddy and I are very slowly working on some in a CAD program.
 
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