This is kind of a tangent, but I'd be interested in a Trek alternate universe that's just a shade or two darker than canon Trek and has Starfleet more like a proper "navy." I think that can be done while maintaining the basic message about the maturation of humankind as a race and might tackle that subject in an interesting way by showing the "work in progress" rather than the mostly-perfect paragons of humanistic virtue we got in TNG.
I participated in a newsgroup discussion several years ago about the possibility of "Federation Marines" in the STAR TREK Universe. There seemed to be two camps: those were embraced the idea and wanted it to be militaristic (something beyond the combat troops from DS9) and those who hated the idea and saw no supporting evidence for it in the TREK Universe.
One really neat suggestion came out of it, though. It was suggested that some countries (and even some American expeditions) had a kind of crossover capability for their military; like the Sea Bees in the U.S. Navy from WW II forward, a naval unit would establish camp onshore, where the unit would become like an army or marine company and petty officers would become "platoon sergeants".
I always saw Starfleet as the primary defense and exploration arm of the Federation, and any ground forces would be subsidiary to that. Still, the "platoon sergeant" idea stuck with me, and I decided to call these contingent ground forces the StarFIREs (Star Fleet Itinerant Regiments and Expeditions). In 24th century and beyond, these units could include civilian specialists and families in their expeditions. But like the parent Starfleet naval arm, the StarFIREs were not a purely military operation, nor were they ever meant to conquer or occupy anything. Their role was more for security, defense, and to provide an appropriate organizational framework to establish expeditions and colonies or rescue operations were Starfleet Command deemed them necessary, at the behest of the Federation Council.
I do like your uniforms. Have you considered a tropical/desert Khaki version?
This is kind of a tangent, but I'd be interested in a Trek alternate universe that's just a shade or two darker than canon Trek and has Starfleet more like a proper "navy." I think that can be done while maintaining the basic message about the maturation of humankind as a race and might tackle that subject in an interesting way by showing the "work in progress" rather than the mostly-perfect paragons of humanistic virtue we got in TNG.
There has been such an alternate version of Trek since 1979 - portrayed in the Star Fleet Universe.
The Star Fleet in that setting has a more 'naval' aspect (and has marines, too) while preserving the principles of interspecies co-operation and missions of exploration.
Plus, while there are various levels of government which interlock in the Federation (in their Earth, state-level goverments such as that of the USA are part of regional confederations, which are in turn part of a United Earth government, itself one of the planetary governments represented on the Federation Council) the Feds still have to worry with somewhat more mundane matters, such as managing the Federation's economy...
The upcoming Federation sourcebook for the Prime Directive RPG should have more info about their take on the UFP's inner workings, too.
...oh, and cool work in this thread, by the way, Konundrum!
This is very interesting, Nerroth - and far more in line with my general thinking than I expected to find in the Trek world.
I don't buy a lot of the propagandic hippie BS that TNG blighted Star Trek with so this sounds like a breath of fresh air.
And thanks.![]()
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