ARE YOU KIDDING ME?! Voyager Ep Counterpoint (Season 5)

[R. Star]

That is my point. Janeway is a COMPLETE prude.. She keeps chakotays balls in a jar for 7 years because he's a pussy. (He's her fallback plan LOL)

She has had ample opportunity to bang tuvok (maybe she has)..

So here comes this alpha male Kashik and she is like "wow who knows when I'll get another chance for a one night stand.. PANTIES ARE DROPPING"


That bullshit about "holding out for mark" and her dear john letter as her closure is just typical chick logic. You notice how she arbitrarily changed her hair style and got more assertive WELL BEFORE THAT (season 4 i believe)

She was about to make out with that French magistrate guy in Prime Factors until Ensign Harry "Cockblocker" Kim decided he's rather interrupt and tell Janeway about the new tool he found than spend time with the chick who was all but throwing herself at him. That was in season one too, so... yeah "holding out for mark" logic rebuffed.

 

[KaraBear]

LOL whatever Kara.. you are just proving my point about chick logic. Chakotays problem? Tuvok being married? THEY ARE 70 years from home!!!

some people might take the opportunity to toss asside their vows and try to hook up. But I think for a lot of people it might take many many years to get to that point.

 

[Captain Kathryn]

That is my point. Janeway is a COMPLETE prude.. She keeps chakotays balls in a jar for 7 years because he's a pussy. (He's her fallback plan LOL)

She has had ample opportunity to bang tuvok (maybe she has)..

So here comes this alpha male Kashik and she is like "wow who knows when I'll get another chance for a one night stand.. PANTIES ARE DROPPING"


That bullshit about "holding out for mark" and her dear john letter as her closure is just typical chick logic. You notice how she arbitrarily changed her hair style and got more assertive WELL BEFORE THAT (season 4 i believe)

As far as Chakotay, she made it clear to him (and the guy from Workforce) that she WOULD NOT have a relationship with anyone under her command.

Meh...if I take the VOY novels as canon, she gladly breaks that principle.

 

[KaraBear]

That is my point. Janeway is a COMPLETE prude.. She keeps chakotays balls in a jar for 7 years because he's a pussy. (He's her fallback plan LOL)

She has had ample opportunity to bang tuvok (maybe she has)..

So here comes this alpha male Kashik and she is like "wow who knows when I'll get another chance for a one night stand.. PANTIES ARE DROPPING"


That bullshit about "holding out for mark" and her dear john letter as her closure is just typical chick logic. You notice how she arbitrarily changed her hair style and got more assertive WELL BEFORE THAT (season 4 i believe)

As far as Chakotay, she made it clear to him (and the guy from Workforce) that she WOULD NOT have a relationship with anyone under her command.

Meh...if I take the VOY novels as canon, she gladly breaks that principle.

in the novel they hooked up once and at that point he wasn't under her command

 

[Captain Kathryn]

As far as Chakotay, she made it clear to him (and the guy from Workforce) that she WOULD NOT have a relationship with anyone under her command.

Meh...if I take the VOY novels as canon, she gladly breaks that principle.

in the novel they hooked up once and at that point he wasn't under her command

They end up together....not just hook up once, from what I got out of it. It was in the last chapter of the last novel. They are still "together" unless another book comes out and ruins it. Which I don't think will happen.

Also she was an Admiral and he was a Captain. Although not directly under her command, they were still colleagues. Also she shares quarters with him in that last scene of the book and I believe they both are working aboard his ship. I suppose that doesn't directly count as being under her command. It's a weird gray area.

But yes on the show she is clear about not getting involved with those under her command.

 

[KaraBear]

Meh...if I take the VOY novels as canon, she gladly breaks that principle.

in the novel they hooked up once and at that point he wasn't under her command

They end up together....not just hook up once, from what I got out of it. It was in the last chapter of the last novel. They are still "together" unless another book comes out and ruins it. Which I don't think will happen.

Also she was an Admiral and he was a Captain. Although not directly under her command, they were still colleagues. Also she shares quarters with him in that last scene of the book and I believe they both are working aboard his ship. I suppose that doesn't directly count as being under her command. It's a weird gray area.

But yes on the show she is clear about not getting involved with those under her command.

that's right there is another book! I forgot, haven't read that one yet. then I take it back, (and now I got a major spoiler haha)

 

[Captain Kathryn]

in the novel they hooked up once and at that point he wasn't under her command

They end up together....not just hook up once, from what I got out of it. It was in the last chapter of the last novel. They are still "together" unless another book comes out and ruins it. Which I don't think will happen.

Also she was an Admiral and he was a Captain. Although not directly under her command, they were still colleagues. Also she shares quarters with him in that last scene of the book and I believe they both are working aboard his ship. I suppose that doesn't directly count as being under her command. It's a weird gray area.

But yes on the show she is clear about not getting involved with those under her command.

that's right there is another book! I forgot, haven't read that one yet. then I take it back, (and now I got a major spoiler haha)

Sorry, I thought you meant that book. I should have spoiler tagged. D:

Which book were you referring to? Full Circle?

 

[KaraBear]

They end up together....not just hook up once, from what I got out of it. It was in the last chapter of the last novel. They are still "together" unless another book comes out and ruins it. Which I don't think will happen.

Also she was an Admiral and he was a Captain. Although not directly under her command, they were still colleagues. Also she shares quarters with him in that last scene of the book and I believe they both are working aboard his ship. I suppose that doesn't directly count as being under her command. It's a weird gray area.

But yes on the show she is clear about not getting involved with those under her command.

that's right there is another book! I forgot, haven't read that one yet. then I take it back, (and now I got a major spoiler haha)

Sorry, I thought you meant that book. I should have spoiler tagged. D:

Which book were you referring to? Full Circle?

no problem, I don't mind spoilers. I actuall downloaded that book a while ago and it's been sitting in my kindle. I guess I meant Full Circle then

 

[Lindley]

4. How is it the Devore sensors cant detect ships that use their own refractive shield technology? It implies they cant find their own ships?

If you're trying to develop a cloaking technology of any sort, wouldn't your own sensors be the first thing you'd make sure couldn't detect it? They're the ones most readily available for testing, after all.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Well that's not a good idea if your government is riddled with enemy agents.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

that's right there is another book! I forgot, haven't read that one yet. then I take it back, (and now I got a major spoiler haha)

Sorry, I thought you meant that book. I should have spoiler tagged. D:

Which book were you referring to? Full Circle?

no problem, I don't mind spoilers. I actuall downloaded that book a while ago and it's been sitting in my kindle. I guess I meant Full Circle then

Yes and LO! Pocketbooks gave 1/2 of the Janeway shipper fandom what they wanted and we were all in shock.

 

[R. Star]

Sorry, I thought you meant that book. I should have spoiler tagged. D:

Which book were you referring to? Full Circle?

no problem, I don't mind spoilers. I actuall downloaded that book a while ago and it's been sitting in my kindle. I guess I meant Full Circle then

Yes and LO! Pocketbooks gave 1/2 of the Janeway shipper fandom what they wanted and we were all in shock.

The books are receptive to their audiences wants. You have to give them that.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

Well I dunno.. not sure anyone actually wanted billions of people to die.

And where is MY shipper fantasy hmmm? Oh never mind, I know I'll never get it. I don't need it really, I'm content with the resurrection.

 

[Guy Gardener]

In Christopher's Department of Temporral Affairs novels Captain Daniels digs the gigadeath.

Janeway baiting the Borg is as necessary and unavoidable as Oswald shooting Kennedy.

Of course when Christopher wrote that, the attack hadn't happened in the real word yet as fiction, but inside fiction Daniels would have retroactively already known about the Borg Invasion in everything he had ever already been in years before the books in question were written or published in the real world.

 

[Brit]

Sorry, I thought you meant that book. I should have spoiler tagged. D:

Which book were you referring to? Full Circle?

no problem, I don't mind spoilers. I actuall downloaded that book a while ago and it's been sitting in my kindle. I guess I meant Full Circle then

Yes and LO! Pocketbooks gave 1/2 of the Janeway shipper fandom what they wanted and we were all in shock.

Were you on facebook the night we got a fan to photograph the last two pages with her I phone, while her husband was driving her home from work? There were a lot of shocked people for sure. Most fun I have had in ages.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

Yes I was!!! It was super exciting and the most fun I've ever had on FB LOLOL

 

[JirinPanthosa]

One opportunity?

She could make out with anyone anywhen.

Anyone who was under her command structure would be an abuse of power.

Egad, I hope you don't have a secretary.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Well, after he raped me...

 

[Melakon]

We're talking Janeway here. She's 50000 + lightyears from Earth. It's her ship. She can do anything she wants. If anyone disagrees, she threatens them with a mutiny charge and a visit to the airlock. Because she can get away with it.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

no problem, I don't mind spoilers. I actuall downloaded that book a while ago and it's been sitting in my kindle. I guess I meant Full Circle then

Yes and LO! Pocketbooks gave 1/2 of the Janeway shipper fandom what they wanted and we were all in shock.

The books are receptive to their audiences wants. You have to give them that.

Spoiler: SPOILERS FOR NEXT VOY BOOK DUE OUT JAN '14

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