But I suspect many of the people here declaring 'I'm not hot' can be, in the right company and circumstances.
Quite possibly. I know I certainly felt hot under with one of the lasses I knew.
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Quite possibly. I know I certainly felt hot under with one of the lasses I knew.
Do I consider myself hot? Hell yes I do. Now do I consider my self way good looking? Nah. I'm over weight and even when I was skinny I never thought of myself as anything more than cute at best. But apparently enough people over time have had a differing opinion. But my hotness comes from the fact that I'm secure in myself and my world. Sure life throws curve balls that get me down from time to time, but they are only temporary. I can talk with out being limited to one area of knowledge. I am not afraid to admit when I don't know something. This is known as being able to communicate. I've also learned how to be an active listener. I'm outgoing and personable. I learned how to and thoroughly enjoy my interests in a great variety of things. I played football and watched sci-fi in highschool. I served in the Army and read voraciously. That breadth of interests still exists in me today. I know how to treat people they way they want to be treated and dont shy away from it. These attributes make me hot, not so much my looks.
On the other hand I dont sit in a well of self pitty going 'woe is me, I'm so ugly / stupid / nerdy that no one will want me.' Cause guess what, if I did do that all I'd be doing is creating a self fufilling prophecy. I've seen pics of most of the posters over the years. These are the same guys saying that they are ugly or unattractive. Bullshit. Its not their looks that make them unattactive. So come one people, pick your self up, get out there, break your additction to the self pitty and trust me, you'll be amazed as how hot you are and then kick your self in the ass for not realizing it sooner in your lives.
On the other hand I dont sit in a well of self pitty going 'woe is me, I'm so ugly / stupid / nerdy that no one will want me.' Cause guess what, if I did do that all I'd be doing is creating a self fufilling prophecy. I've seen pics of most of the posters over the years. These are the same guys saying that they are ugly or unattractive. Bullshit. Its not their looks that make them unattactive. So come one people, pick your self up, get out there, break your additction to the self pitty and trust me, you'll be amazed as how hot you are and then kick your self in the ass for not realizing it sooner in your lives.
You madam are a genius and are far more eloquent in getting the point across than I.I think 'hotness' is such a difficult concept to pin down. I've known people of both sexes who had all the attributes of classical beauty and shape, who were nonetheless as sexy as a used dishmop. And I've known people who physically and facially were far from the beauty norm, but who, because of their personality, gesture, conversation and eye-contact were incredibly hot.
That sort of hotness doesn't translate well to the internet - you can't capture it in a two dimensional image. But I suspect many of the people here declaring 'I'm not hot' can be, in the right company and circumstances.
Me? Well, I'm not classically beautiful - too short and too old for that. But in the right mood? Yeah, I can do Hot.
Indeed, it is all down to self-confidence - and I at least am working on the addictions
Yes. It's the perfect revenge for all those years that my father told me that I'm ugly and picked my appearance apart when we were in public.
On a related note, it's November and it's currently 79 degrees in my apartment. Not. Happy.
On a related note, it's November and it's currently 79 degrees in my apartment. Not. Happy.
Thurisaz
Lieutenant Commander
I'm going to resist making this a big muscle thread.
Thurisaz we have a fitness thread over here if you're interested..http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=46687&page=23
What are your stats?
RAMA
6'1 245lbs
Hot?
Hardly.
Rugged Kiwi bloke who can bench press a bulldozer?
Oh yeah.
Hardly.
Rugged Kiwi bloke who can bench press a bulldozer?
Oh yeah.
I think 'hotness' is such a difficult concept to pin down. I've known people of both sexes who had all the attributes of classical beauty and shape, who were nonetheless as sexy as a used dishmop. And I've known people who physically and facially were far from the beauty norm, but who, because of their personality, gesture, conversation and eye-contact were incredibly hot.
That sort of hotness doesn't translate well to the internet - you can't capture it in a two dimensional image. But I suspect many of the people here declaring 'I'm not hot' can be, in the right company and circumstances.
Me? Well, I'm not classically beautiful - too short and too old for that. But in the right mood? Yeah, I can do Hot.
Part of it is looks, yeah. Part of it is the way you carry yourself. I was recently told "You have no fear" (meaning, I'm plain spoken and speak my mind). Apparently that's a major selling point. Personally, after looks, I include movement - for example the way a person dances on the dancefloor ( I used to be one of those boys who danced on the dais for nightclubs ). If you can move well, particularly if you can read the music as you dance - good dancers will know what I mean - I'm inclined to think "You're hot." Personally, I've been approached by girls (including one really hot number from France about ten years ago--we made out for hours in the corner after she spoke to me, she said, "I've been watching you dance, and I just want to touch your chest"...I said, "Um, okay..." One thing led to another, and we made out for about fifteen minutes..now SHE was HOT!) because of the way I move.
Now, that I'm closer to 40, IMO, for me at least, it's not just about how you present yourself, it's about how you treat the other person. For example, if some hot little number and I pass the "initial interview" and we can keep flirting and the questions move from questions about the basics to more penetrating questions about what makes me "tick"...well in the words of Paris Hilton, "That's hot!"
In addition, there's a certain amount of self-confidence that I find "hot." I'll say "I'm hot," because I'm confident - not because I'm vain. Granted I spend 5 or 6 days a week in the gym, so I'm confident of my looks, build, etc...but, for example, I also have only one ear (my left) and big scar down my scalp from when the missing one was removed a couple of years ago, but I'm confident in my presentation. I don't advertise, I don't hide, I just go about my business. I don't look for people to get of my way, I stand to the side. If I, say, return to the dancefloor to dance, I don't get in the center of the crowd or on the box anymore, I make my own space and hold my ground. I don't try to one-up anybody (unless I'm being challenged on the dancefloor - because that's just part of the game and a bit fun to see who'll get 'served," ---and ain't nobody served me yet
, even at my tired age of 39 - , I let it go by - because I know who I am, and I don't have any reason to one-up them. So, when I see somebody else that's capable of that, I think, "That's hot." On the other hand, when I see a Paris Hilton or PH wannabe, to take just one popular example, I think, "She gives hot people a bad name."
What is the effective difference between hotness (i.e. a person thinking that they are hot, whatever the hell that means) and arrogance/narcissism?
A rather fine line, don't you think?
A well rounded individual and someone with deep psychological issues.
Yeah, it's a fine line.
I suppose that's true, but how can someone have an attitude like "I'm hot" without being just a tad arrogant?
I's rather call it sex appeal, self-confidence and charisma. Or charm.
But the arrogance/narcissism is necessary, for instance, in being a singer. If you don't like yourself and what you're putting on/out enough, if you don't flirt with your audience a bit, too, I say you can't be a singer that calls much attention. You don't reach your audience. It's about seduction.
The same can be said about other professions/hobbies like, you'll say acting of course, I'll say teachers/lecturers, for example, I guess. They don't have to be compelling, but it's better if they are.
Some people are hot/charismatic without being aware of it. They're just confident about other things than their seduction in particular.
Oh, wait. That's being hot, not having the "I'm hot" attitude. I guess it depends on how much humour and self-derision they have.
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Am I hot? I don't know, you guys tell me.
I'd post a pic but, it'd feel redundant to the Pic thread.
I'd post a pic but, it'd feel redundant to the Pic thread.
Yeah, I think I'm good looking, but I'm short so it kinda negates it.
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