I survived NeoGAF's second-wind seething hatred of Dragon Age: Inquisition. I'll survive this.
Are you depressed over bad reviews or simply don't give a F--?!
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How can you say that? If you watch 2 or 4 episodes of a TV show and you think it's crap, you probably won't like the rest. That's for sure. You don't have to watch the whole thing, serialized or not. You must allow people to have their own opinion about a TV show.
How many episodes do you need before you understand a TV show is crap for you? After 1, 2 or 3 episodes... you don't like the writing, you don't like the characters, you don't like story, you don't like most of the action etc. If you don't like it, you don't like it, you don't need to watch the whole thing!! It's not a big deal. I'm sure other people may like it. Some TV shows are not good for you. It's a matter of personal taste.
If after 1 or 4 episodes, you think a TV show is good, not so bad, but not great. Yes, then, maybe you can give it a chance for more episodes. You already like it a bit, even if you don't consider it great. You will keep watching depending on how much you like it already.
Sometime it happens that a TV show can change direction, improve and become suddenly good, but it doesn't happen often. Most of the time, it's because you already like some part of it and they got rid of the part you didn't like. Only when the direction of the show is drastically different, than a TV show can suddenly becomes great.
Honest to God, if I trusted reviewer opinions, I'd have missed out on some films and TV shows that I absolutely adore. Jesus, ENT was getting butchered by many, and that was and still is my favourite of all the Trek shows.
I'm not saying all negative reviews are bullshit, but the honest truth is that many that float around online ARE part of some agenda. Places like here, Twitter, etc.
I'm not saying all negative reviews are bullshit, but the honest truth is that many that float around online ARE part of some agenda. Places like here, Twitter, etc.
How come so many people like TNG then?
I'm not saying folks have to bear this in mind, per se -- our lives are short enough as-is -- but plenty of people hold the opinion that zero out of four previous Star Trek spinoffs were worth a damn if one were to judge their first 2 or 4 episodes only. Trek's got a thing for needing time to get its bearings.
After watching ENT be treated like the redheaded bastard stepchild that was kept in the basement of the Trek franchise by both critics and longtime fans I just don't pay that much attention to the reviews. At the end of the day all that matters is that I did or didn't like it.
Bad shows get praised. Awful ones get high ratings. Good shows often get canceled after just one season on the air not because of critics, but because they couldn't attract and then keep an audience in a very busy and competitive TV schedule. In the end, critics aren't really all that important even if they're right from an objective standpoint.
Bad shows get praised. Awful ones get high ratings. Good shows often get canceled after just one season on the air not because of critics, but because they couldn't attract and then keep an audience in a very busy and competitive TV schedule. In the end, critics aren't really all that important even if they're right from an objective standpoint.
True.
The show (and Trek in general) is better off without anyone sharing that mindset, and let's face it, there's hardly enough of them to damage the show's performance.
The reaction from the professional reviewers seems pretty positive, everyone I've met (I work in a comic shop) seems very positive about it, so who cares ?
I'm not gonna even bother looking at that review (or any other bad review). I make my own mine up and also listen to what friends say. Seen many people unhappy with it - too bad if they don't like it at this early stage. I want more. I know Discovery will be great for Star Trek fans and I look forward to hearing about how new fans are enjoying it.
Here is a review from someone who started their review with 'I am not a Trekkie'
Spoiler alert: The reviewer loved Discovery.
http://www.news.com.au/entertainmen...y/news-story/82203127cf7b9abba477c37476906478
Spoiler alert: The reviewer loved Discovery.
http://www.news.com.au/entertainmen...y/news-story/82203127cf7b9abba477c37476906478
If a story is serialised and told over the course of 13 or so episodes, then how can you decide on how good the overall writing and content is? Do you judge a movie within the first 15 mins and then walk out if it hasn't grabbed you?
I've seen tons of positive stuff from people that matter............the downside of the Internet is every angry fanboy has a blog or vlog and they have been making the rounds and shared. For the most part I only read professional stuff from respected publications.
Exactly. There are plenty of programmes I've not got into but have had rave reviews. They've just not been my style. The opposite is also true.
He didn't liken Babylon 5 at first but came to really like it and indeed submit scripts to it by s2. David is a problematic, temperamental figure - brilliant on occasion as with xfactor or his londo books, inconsistent as with his more recent treklit - but if this was his reaction, I hope his more open self, the creatively accepting self, comes to the fore somehow.
The 300+ stupidly negative user reviews - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5171438/reviews?filter=hate
Online reviews of Discovery by individuals are usually just "look how right I was about my opinion before it even aired!"
It's astonishing how many people with completely contradictory views were proved entirely right by the airing of the show. It's just an exercise in confirmation bias and your predisposition to either like or dislike the show. The only reviews I have seen which give much analysis based solely on the episodes as they stand on their own are those from people who clearly did go in with a very open mind or broadly lacking in expectations one way or the other. Those are far more interesting to read, too.
It's astonishing how many people with completely contradictory views were proved entirely right by the airing of the show. It's just an exercise in confirmation bias and your predisposition to either like or dislike the show. The only reviews I have seen which give much analysis based solely on the episodes as they stand on their own are those from people who clearly did go in with a very open mind or broadly lacking in expectations one way or the other. Those are far more interesting to read, too.
Some of the "review" titles:
Boldly Going Psychotic
This isn't Star Trek - this is Star Wars with Star Trek characters
Two Hours of Hack Writing and Lens Flares
Look Yoko Ono has her own ship now to ruin everything
Horror. War. Racism. Desecration of the Corpse of Gene Roddenberry. (Also: cheap CGI, dull story, lame acting)
When Federation turns evil
the discovery of total trash
When being PC is more important than actually being creative
Nothing short of treason
Star Trek is officially declared as clinical dead
Welcome to the USS lensflare! Someone needs to get fired for this!
CBS is Pimps
Thank you for killing my hope of being able to relive my childhood
Not Star Trek...All Universe Social Justice League Steals A Brand
Political correctness at absurdum
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THIS is what you people have been depressed over?
Yoko Ono.
Yoko Ono?
Yoko Ono?
I think it's hilarious that people get angry over the show being 'too politically correct'. What tv show have they been watching for the last 50 years?
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