Are we making two assumptions that might not be correct? (spoilers)

[Jeri]

Re: Are we making two assumptions that might not be correct? (spoilers

In the book, that morning when Kirk rides by the ship yard, that is the time that he falls in love with the ship being built. The Enterprise is the only ship he has ever been in love with, and that's when it happens. It is expressed as love, like for a woman.

 

[Hyperspace05]

Re: Are we making two assumptions that might not be correct? (spoilers

2. Lots of people are up in arms about Vulcan being destroyed; I know I was upon first viewing, but I've come to accept it and even appreciate it. However, perhaps the "Vulcan" that was destroyed in the new movie wasn't the same planet we've known from our reality. If memory serves from the new movie, wasn't the atmosphere blue in the scenes they showed on Vulcan? However, the Vulcan we know from our reality has a red (?) atmosphere, similar to Mars. (Please correct the color, if it's wrong, as I am color blind). Perhaps now that their planet is destroyed, all Vulcans will move to a new planet, with a red atmosphere, which is the planet we know.

Sigh... This is a new time line... how many times does the movie (and its makers) have to make that clear. Vulcan is destroyed.

I repeat again... THIS IS NOT A PREQUEL. Vulcan is gone. The sooner people accept that the sooner they can appreciate the opportunities this opens up for new stories.

 

[Peter the Younger]

Re: Are we making two assumptions that might not be correct? (spoilers

In the book, that morning when Kirk rides by the ship yard, that is the time that he falls in love with the ship being built. The Enterprise is the only ship he has ever been in love with, and that's when it happens. It is expressed as love, like for a woman.

Why do I imagine this being said in a deep French accent?

 

[Jeri]

Re: Are we making two assumptions that might not be correct? (spoilers

In the book, that morning when Kirk rides by the ship yard, that is the time that he falls in love with the ship being built. The Enterprise is the only ship he has ever been in love with, and that's when it happens. It is expressed as love, like for a woman.

Why do I imagine this being said in a deep French accent?

Because you are a very perceptive person?

It was kind of like that.

 

[Jeri]

Re: Are we making two assumptions that might not be correct? (spoilers

Ok, here's the passage:

...His bike idling almost silently, Kirk gazed at the great ship. While the superstructure was largely finished, it was still a long way from being complete, and internal fitting out had barely begun. The service yard was filled with crates, containers, and boxes, some of them enormous, each stenciled or otherwise branded with the name of the new vessel for which their contents were destined:

U.S.S. ENTERPRISE

As he observed the flurry of activity, he sought the right words to describe the ship. She was the newest model and represented the latest Starfleet designs. Not that he paid regular attention to such things, oh no. He had been far more interested in which female performers happened to be dancing or singing at the regional bars. Physical beauty had always been important to him. That and natural charm, stance and grace.

With a start he realized that he was unconsciously applying the same parameters to the ship under construction.

"What the hell do you think you're doing?" he asked himself. "You sleep on a starship, not with it...

 

[Jeri]

Re: Are we making two assumptions that might not be correct? (spoilers

The book also explains:

"...Starfleet had chosen central Iowa as the site of this particular construction yard not only because of its proximity to Mississippi shipping and the industrial-commercial hubs of the Midwest but because if something blew, few people outside the yard itself would be at risk. There was ample room to work, plenty of territory for subsidiary firms and support industries to set up shop, and the ground was flat and tectonically stable..."

 

[BenRoethig]

Re: Are we making two assumptions that might not be correct? (spoilers

I don't think the book writer did much research. Its not close at all to the Mississippi (80 mile trip I-80 and US218), has no access to rail, and is just south of Iowa City so people would be affected if there was an accident.

 

[Fat Valentino]

Re: Are we making two assumptions that might not be correct? (spoilers

Well, 80 miles is a pretty short trip for a 2009 bullet train, probably even faster for a 2259 model. And plenty of time in the next 200 years to lay those new tracks!

 

[Valar]

Re: Are we making two assumptions that might not be correct? (spoilers

Oh for god's sake people- think of the symbolism, Kirk sees an unfinished ship, just as he is unfinished, then when she is launched, so too is his career in Starfleet, her maiden voyage is also his. Just as he comes into his own, realizes his place in the world and his power, so too does she. It's poetic and powerfully symbolic. Get with the program.

 

[Holodoc]

Re: Are we making two assumptions that might not be correct? (spoilers

The book also explains:

"...Starfleet had chosen central Iowa as the site of this particular construction yard not only because of its proximity to Mississippi shipping and the industrial-commercial hubs of the Midwest but because if something blew, few people outside the yard itself would be at risk. There was ample room to work, plenty of territory for subsidiary firms and support industries to set up shop, and the ground was flat and tectonically stable..."

Y'know, if there was really a concern that something might explode, I'd think putting the shipyards in space would be a better idea.

The idea that Starfleet is willing to risk blowing up portions of the Earth, rather than empty space, is terrifying.

 

[Lt Cmdr Tyler]

Re: Are we making two assumptions that might not be correct? (spoilers

I think it's fairly clear that it's not the Enterprise being built on earth, as he seems to be looking at it only a very short time before he flies up to the real-deal Enterprise up in space. It does look like a ship of the same or a similar class, though.

WRONG!!!

It IS the Enterprise cos three years passed by after that and it IS the pictured ship on the cinema posters.

Therefore logically one would assume it is the Enterprise.

 

[Kpnuts]

Re: Are we making two assumptions that might not be correct? (spoilers

It was the Enterprise.

It was Vulcan.

Case closed guys, seriously.