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Are the Romulans the aliens who abducted Gary Seven?

ChrisRBee

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I am confused… Is „Picard“ saying that the Romulans are the species that abducted Gary Seven‘s ancestors and send the supervisors to Earth? Or is only Tallinn a Romulan who was abducted by the same aliens who abducted Gary Seven‘s ancestors from Earth?
 
I'd think not. Only because the Romulans are at war with Earth in the 2150s. Romulans watching over Earth to make sure they evolve into a peaceful society sounds both at odds with Romulan culture and not like something they'd do while they're fighting a war later on.

Gary Seven said the Watchers were from a planet that would be unknown even in Kirk's time.

They also strike me as more advanced than either the Romulans or the Federation/Earth, in the 20th/21st Century and in the 23rd/25th.
 
‪‪I think they’ve answered this on the show.

As @Lord Garth mentioned above, in the original Assignment: Earth episode Gary Seven mentions that by Kirk’s time the aliens that trained and assigned him are unknown to the Federation, and Tallinn has dialogue in this season’s Monsters after revealing to Picard she was a Romulan.

Tallinn said:
Usually, we're recruited to watch over our own, but, on occasion, a similar species.

Tallinn is just a rare instance of an alien being assigned as a Supervisor to Earth, when she would typically have been assigned on Romulus.
 
I don't believe there ever was any abduction. I used to think Gary Seven was from the future, but that wasn't correct, either.

From what I understand...

The Watchers are a multi-species organization. They send members of their organization to planets like Earth to watch over the natural progress of the planet. These assigned watchers are to make sure history develops as it should and give it a little push when it's needed. Gary Seven was not a time traveler. His home world was just really far away from Earth.

Did the Watchers originally abduct the ancestors of the people they assign to watch over planets like Earth? Maybe, but it's just as likely their ancestors were contacted and politely asked/recruited to join. This was long ago and the people we see like Tallinn or Gary are their offspring several generations later.
 
I am confused… Is „Picard“ saying that the Romulans are the species that abducted Gary Seven‘s ancestors and send the supervisors to Earth? Or is only Tallinn a Romulan who was abducted by the same aliens who abducted Gary Seven‘s ancestors from Earth?
Nope, it was Wil Wheaton and the Travellers.
 
Listen, I watched the entire season and I still cannot even tell you why Tallinn looked like Laris. Were we given a reason for that? Was there something I missed?
 
Listen, I watched the entire season and I still cannot even tell you why Tallinn looked like Laris. Were we given a reason for that? Was there something I missed?
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Did the Watchers originally abduct the ancestors of the people they assign to watch over planets like Earth?

Probably.

IIRC, in "Assignment:Earth", Gary Seven is a normal Earth human, indigenous to the 20th century just like we saw. Genetically perfect, to be sure, but still human. So it would seem that Gary's ancestors were taken from Earth generations ago, and Gary is a product of selective breeding and training.

The novelverse calls it a "Varley extraction."

As for Tallinn, we don't know if she was as "perfect" (genetically speaking) as Gary. It could be that she was just a normal Romulan who willingly joined the Aegis.

Listen, I watched the entire season and I still cannot even tell you why Tallinn looked like Laris. Were we given a reason for that? Was there something I missed?

As far as we know, the resemblance was purely coincidental, just because Orla Brady played both roles. Now of course it is entirely possible that Tallinn is an ancestor of Laris, but it's not established as such. And probably is not important.
 
Listen, I watched the entire season and I still cannot even tell you why Tallinn looked like Laris. Were we given a reason for that? Was there something I missed?

Firstly because they didn't want to lose such a great actor, Orla Brady, and wrote her a new part to keep her contribution to the whole. (Similarly with Brent and Isa.)

But Talinn is also an interesting red herring. ie. Would she turn out to be an actual Romulan, or the actual Laris, or one of Laris's ancestors?
 
Listen, I watched the entire season and I still cannot even tell you why Tallinn looked like Laris. Were we given a reason for that? Was there something I missed?
Maybe it’s something to do with universal homogony and balance as a result of nature’s tendency to create seemingly random and unconnected patterns which can be perceived as being unnatural, but are possibly the a result of a grand universal design rather than coincidence, things that are ‘just meant to be’ in order for the universe to unfold and blossom? Star Trek maybe displaying ‘small universe’ syndrome examples of ‘sacred geometry’ and random probability. Tallinn was not Laris, though the universe had through either intelligent design or simply as a result of random chaos recreated the ‘essence’ of this individual; in a similar way as to how intricate snowflakes randomly form but yet still look very similar, constructed and artificial but being oh so very natural, or how identical looking flowers can blossom in different continents around the world yet are still very much individual and unique. Patterns in nature that are recurrent but still part of nature’s design on a quantum and maybe even a metaphysical level. Coincidences or patterns which can also be demonstrated in the natural world through something as simple as the symmetries in a butterfly, or the markings of a tiger. Beyond these simpler to perceive perceptions of universal coincidence and geometry we also have complex wavelengths, frequencies and tessellations, beautiful geometric regularities all bound together by the laws of physics and mathematics. Probability may appear to make the likelihood of Tallin and Laris having the same appearance and similar character traits impossible or highly unlikely, but the universe might just play around with random probability. It could just be a case of the flow of quantum or spiritual energy ‘pooling like water’ where it needs to be…. A universal jigsaw that we all put together through our actions and thoughts with interchangeable pieces and the odd sprinkling of random coincidence.
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