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Are New Aliens Going to Be a Problem?

They'd already showed Korath as a nuKlingon on DS9. So that explanation wasn't happening.
All that means is that they should have figured out the most reasonable explanation (multiple species in the Empire - the novelverse had already done that lifting for them) before Korath's appearance, too.

I agree, though, that the joke was... okay. Enterprise shouldn't have tried to build a serious narrative on it, though.
 
Yeah...no.

They'd already showed Korath as a nuKlingon on DS9. So that explanation wasn't happening.

The joke was the very best way of handling it.
Korath had a Klingon face lift to fit in

Dax - Hey Korath what happened to your pretty face?
Korath - It was the only way I could mate with Gowron's sister
(Cue laughter)
 
Am I the only one who wants the show to repeat the Klingon joke made in "Trials and Tribblations" on "Discovery." Get Dorn to come play his ancestor and have him interact with the "Discovery" crew in his old traditional makeup and when people look at him compared to the new look makeup they are use to and they ask him about it he says something like"Yes I am Klingon." someone then asks what happens and he says "It's something we don't talk about with outsiders."

Jason
 
Korath had a Klingon face lift to fit in

Dax - Hey Korath what happened to your pretty face?
Korath - It was the only way I could mate with Gowron's sister
(Cue laughter)

Yeah, that doesn't track with the alternative suggestion, either.
 
It doesn't bother me if they introduce new aliens or even break canon. But... you know what happened with Enterprise.
 
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It doesn't bother me if they introduce new aliens or even break canon.
It really doesn't bother me much, either - IF it is done willfully and with full awareness, to tell a good story. (And hopefully they leave us fans enough wiggle room to come up with a Treksplanation. ;) ) The problem with a lot of the times it happened on Voyager or Enterprise is that it really seemed that it wasn't anything like that, but instead, sloppy writing, ignorance of what had come before, and/or a blatant disregard. Never mind displeasing the superfans, but it's also just a poor job of maintenance for a piece of intellectual property that is worth mucho dinero to the owners.
 
I'd have liked it better if they had had Worf say something like, "The Empire is vast, and contains many species - some of which have fully assimilated as Klingons. And if they serve the Empire with honor, then they *are* Klingons.".

But that wouldn't have been nearly as funny . . . or memorable.

I'll take a good one-liner over a block of expository dialogue.
 
The TV show Star Trek: Enterprise got into trouble for being a prequel show and they introduced new aliens with make up that was made in the first couple of years of the 21st century vs. the late 1960's.

LIke Rogue One, I suggest that the producers do a relatively equal percentage of things that would be from TOS, new style aliens, and new aliens that look like they would have been made as a continuation from the 1960's show.
I want to know HOE 'Enterprise got into 'trouble because we saw some aliens that never appeared in TOS or the 24th century TNG era. I think it's ridiculous to think that we saw every single alien race the Federation ever made contact with in either TOS or TNG. But that's me
 
But that wouldn't have been nearly as funny . . . or memorable.

I'll take a good one-liner over a block of expository dialogue.
It's a fair point, and like I said, I actually have less of a problem with the joke - especially given the total fan service nature of the episode anyway - than I do with the explanation that Enterprise went and tried to build around it.
 
Honestly, if it were a great episode, I'd be fine with showing the Borg. I'd actually like to see the Borg become scary again.

If you need a canon explanation, the ship gets destroyed and Starfleet covers it up to avoid a panic in the Quadrant. Mention something about them being aware of them.
 
Honestly, if it were a great episode, I'd be fine with showing the Borg. I'd actually like to see the Borg become scary again.

If you need a canon explanation, the ship gets destroyed and Starfleet covers it up to avoid a panic in the Quadrant. Mention something about them being aware of them.

The Hansens were investigating the Borg before the Ent-D's first encounter in TNG, they may have been tipped off by someone within Starfleet.
 
Honestly, if it were a great episode, I'd be fine with showing the Borg. I'd actually like to see the Borg become scary again.

If you need a canon explanation, the ship gets destroyed and Starfleet covers it up to avoid a panic in the Quadrant. Mention something about them being aware of them.

Yeah, and in the last scene we have Captain Lorca and Number One talking to a Starfleet official, the boring administrative kind.

Lorca: "So what happens with the technology samples we recovered? We need to analyze these to prepare. It has to be researched."
Starfleet dude: "And it will be, I assure you, Captain Lorca. We have top men working on it right now."
Number One: "Who?"
Starfleet dude: "Top... men."
 
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Yeah, and in the last scene we have Captain Lorca and Number One talking to a Star Trek official, the boring administrative kind.

Lorca: "So what happens with the technology samples we recovered? We need to analyze these to prepare. It has to be researched."
Starfleet dude: "And it will be, I assure you, Captain Lorca. We have top men working on it right now."
Number One: "Who?"
Starfleet dude: "Top... men."
The last shot could be some Admiral filing away the samples in a huge warehouse, then leaves through a door with Section 31 on a sign.
 
I'd have liked it better if they had had Worf say something like, "The Empire is vast, and contains many species - some of which have fully assimilated as Klingons. And if they serve the Empire with honor, then they *are* Klingons.".

Even better would be have gowron, martok and Worf chilling out after a battle and have one peel the forehead off complaining how this p'tach thing itches and how they shouldn't need them to scare humans.
 
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It doesn't bother me if they introduce new aliens or even break canon. But... you know what happened with Enterprise.
Name one Star Trek series that doesn't have multiple on screen canon violations over the 50+ year run of the franchise? (hell, name one that doesn't have internal - IE they violated something seen earlier in the run of the individual Star Trek series - conon violations conflicting with itself?) ;)
 
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