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Are cassettes still good?

I still buy them, internet conncections can fail, cloud providers can go bust, DRM can suddenly and without warning make all your music files worthless and harddrives/SSD's can die within seconds, CD's also have a few disadvantages but they can be ripped to MP3 and when stored properly they do last very long, I have a few CD's from the late 80's and they still work as a charm, I ripped them to MP3 when I had a Pentium 166MMX and reripped them last year to a much better quality.
 
I still buy them, internet conncections can fail, cloud providers can go bust, DRM can suddenly and without warning make all your music files worthless and harddrives/SSD's can die within seconds, CD's also have a few disadvantages but they can be ripped to MP3 and when stored properly they do last very long, I have a few CD's from the late 80's and they still work as a charm, I ripped them to MP3 when I had a Pentium 166MMX and reripped them last year to a much better quality.

I still have my Dire Straits stuff from 1984 and it plays as good as it did when I purchased it. CDs will if looked after last a long, long time.

Now DVDs on the other hand...... There's a thing called DVD rot which is erosion of the foil layer under the plastic. It can happen at any time.
 
If we could laser write information onto a flexible thin ribbon of material, we could combine the adorable cassette tape with the awesome Blu-Ray.
 
Arcade Fire just released their latest album on CD, vinyl, and cassette. Apparently some people out there still have tape players.

Kor
 
Might actually be a few billion people still having cassette playes, like in India or China.
 
Some of these "leaders" are living in the past, man...
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Hey at first I thought it was some weird anomally with Tony Abbott saying it a lot before his party dumped him as PM, then a little while ago Trump said it too.
 
Cassettes were excellent sound quality put on a very shitty medium.

What I mean is, if you take a brand new high-quality cassette strait out of the shrink wrap and and put it in a deck with clean heads and a new motor, the sound will be better than anything short of R2R. The problem is the cassettes are made out of low-grade materials and wear very easily. Deck heads get dirty and motors lose speed/power over time.

Vinyl is really the opposite. The actual sound quality of an LP is very mediocre (comparatively). It's just that the medium is about as perfect as anyone could ask for for high-fidelity analog audio.

As others have said, R2R is still at the top of the heap. It's really impossible to convey just how good the sound is. I was fortunate enough to grow up with it. My dad had built up a collection while he was in the service. The deck he payed full price, but the albums he could get at the commissary/BX for under $10. Unfortunately, my mom made him get rid of them all when I was in junior high because of a big house remodel.

Anyway, my point is R2R really has to be experienced. The only other thing I can think to compare it to is plugging a NES/SNES/etc. via SCART into a PVM. You can tell people how good it looks. They have to see it.

And to that end, people who say cassettes were crap probably never heard one under the conditions I described above--which is perfectly understandable.

+1^10

Cassettes are nothing more than scaled down R2R, though at a relatively slow 1-7/8ips speed and narrow tape/track width.

However, due to continuous tech improvements and refinements through the 70's, 80's and into the 90's, better tape formulations with ever smaller magnetic particle size, and Dolby C/S and especially Dolby HX Pro on the record side, an average consumer could easily record vinyl or a CD to a cassette on a Pioneer/JVC/Denon/Nakamichi deck and be hard pressed to tell the difference in an A-B comparison.

As mentioned, tape head wear, belt wear, and other mechanical issues degraded decks over time. Plus, most consumers bought the cheapest blank tapes they could get and usually poor quality lesser branded playback decks.
Coupled with the general poor quality of pre-recorded cassettes at music stores (though they steadily improved from the mid 80's onwards with Chrome/Type II and/or HX Pro and Digilog mastering).

I have been playing tapes I made from the late 80's and they still sound great on cleaned Denon and Pioneer decks.
 
I have been wondering why analog audiophile snobs haven't ben leading the charge for a cassette comeback- how else can you record vinyl in the analog domain (never passing through digital) for portable use?
 
Simple, they don't use portable devices, audiophiles usually have a room set up entirely for music listening.

As for your remark about consumers buying the cheapest blank tape, here in the Netherlands people usually bought the high end tapes even for use in walkmans, in my area BASF was very popular.

According to a recent news item cassettes are on the rise, a Dutch firm went from two to twenty thousand units within a year, so the comeback is there.
 
I used to by Maxell, Sony, and BASF cassettes. The Metal format ones were the best but they had somewhat a harsh tone to them on playback but they were the ones for me that gave the best recordings.
 
I used to by Maxell, Sony, and BASF cassettes. The Metal format ones were the best but they had somewhat a harsh tone to them on playback but they were the ones for me that gave the best recordings.
I always used TDK as they never seemed to foul up - just standard ferric oxide; not chromium dioxide or more expensive "metal" tapes. I also made sure that I cleaned and degaussed the tape machine heads regularly.
 
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Did you ever buy those tapes with the spools inside the case that looked like miniature reel to reel spools? I always liked those because the full sized reels seemed to keep the tape even .
 
Reel to reel was designed to keep the tape tension constant, wasn't it? I'm not sure cassette mechanisms ever really achieved that. The tape seemed to get more tightly wound and you had to resort to a couple of passes of fast forwarding and rewinding to fix the tension. Didn't seem to be a problem with TDK tapes though.
 
Reel to reel was designed to keep the tape tension constant, wasn't it? I'm not sure cassette mechanisms ever really achieved that. The tape seemed to get more tightly wound and you had to resort to a couple of passes of fast forwarding and rewinding to fix the tension. Didn't seem to be a problem with TDK tapes though.


TDK made the ones I was talking about, they had a clear case and what looked like two reels inside.
 
TDK made the ones I was talking about, they had a clear case and what looked like two reels inside.
Could be - however, I got rid of my last tape something like 20 years ago and no longer remember much about them. I moved onto burning MP3s onto CDs and eventually memory sticks. The build quality and robustness of TDK cassettes did seem a lot better than Sony, Maxell, Philips, and even BASF but I don't remember the transport mechanism being any better perticularly. I mostly bough the SA (Super Avilyn) variety IIRC, which was a cobolt-ferric mix rather than chromium. TDK SF tapes were supposedly better but they were too late to the game for me.
 
Could be - however, I got rid of my last tape something like 20 years ago and no longer remember much about them. I moved onto burning MP3s onto CDs and eventually memory sticks. The build quality and robustness of TDK cassettes did seem a lot better than Sony, Maxell, Philips, and even BASF but I don't remember the transport mechanism being any better perticularly. I mostly bough the SA (Super Avilyn) variety IIRC, which was a cobolt-ferric mix rather than chromium. TDK SF tapes were supposedly better but they were too late to the game for me.


Oh that's OK,. Anyway here's a picture lol

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I kept using these even after CDs became a common thing. This was the kind of thing I was using in different brands.

I eventually went digital.
 
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