Are cassettes still good?

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  1. Gingerbread Demon

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    Not sure where I stand on this. Cassettes can sound good when you use expensive brand name recording equipment but they are a technology that should by all accounts be dead still but young people today are glomming onto old stuff that we had in the 80s and 90s growing up as if it's the latest most fantastic thing.

    Oh and yes reel to reel tapes do sound great, and Vinyl does sound warm and nice but technology changes. I'm not sure I want to go back to the old stuff.

    I liked the video and listened to all the stuff he said but I think there's some false nostalgia going on here or am I wrong?
     
  2. Relayer1

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    Cassettes were always crap, but they did allow you music on the move.

    What always amazed me was people buying music on cassette. Why not buy the album, tape it and then when the tape inevitably tangled or developed drop outs, record it again ?
     
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  3. Gingerbread Demon

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    Hey we did that when we were kids haha
     
  4. Relayer1

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    Yup, we home taped, and killed music !

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  5. Tosk

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    I was glad to quit tape. Both audio cassettes and VHS. They served me well back then, but I don't miss them.
     
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  6. Relayer1

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    Yeah, I had Technics and Panasonic tape decks and used high quality tapes for the most part and spent a small fortune on my walkman thingy (not a Sony) too and got good reproduction, but tapes aren't an item to take pleasure in.

    And always ended up letting you down.
     
  7. Gingerbread Demon

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    I remember those stickers.

    Hold on Sony and Co. If home taping is illegal why did you have recording functionality?
     
  8. Qonundrum

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    So every family's members could all sing and share and all the new competition would drive the cost of the latest ZZ Metallica album down. :)

    They just couldn't figure out a way to encode audio on cassette to prevent copying, though every time one copied a tape's content onto another, there was a generational drop in quality. One can mask it to an extent with an equalizer, but it's going to go down a tad. That's why I don't believe "recording from a vinyl to type 4 shiny metal cassette sounds more artificially warm or whatever, there's distortion that's more appealing in the end...)

    Lossless or near-lossless AAC is going to sound the future, anyway. Cassettes and vinyl use more irreplaceable resources, are not portable, and are sold on a myth to begin with, never mind the RPM and disc diameter issues, and each playback with the needle (slowly degrades) the vinyl over time and I'm not talking about scratching across the surface. Pops and other artifacting noises from vinyl are not better. All the talk of sound quality is hilarious since the master tapes holding all the old songs from the 1960s and such were made on 30ips 1/2" or 1" wide tape - holding far more quality than any home portable 1/8" grade type bloody 1, 2, 3, or 4 ever will. :) And with lesser chance of dropouts and other forms of entropy-driven degradation that aren't easily irreparable (or at all)... To say nothing about pitch and other tone problems if the motor isn't spinning at a consistent speed, restoration of TOS' sountrack masters must have been a chore... CDs may cut bandwidth in ranges above and below the human frequency range, but that's nothing by comparison to any analogue media.
     
  9. Gingerbread Demon

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    Someone somewhere must have said "nothing will replace vinyl" lol
     
  10. publiusr

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    They might be right it is making a comeback.

    The haptics of cassetes and *-tracks always felt better to me than CDs.
     
  11. Gingerbread Demon

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    How so?

    I mean we did have DAT and DCC and that was the same size as audio cassttes, only it was never pushed or promoted heavily and just never took off and that was a purely digital format. DAT became something for professionals and never made it to the domestic market. Stupid Sony.
     
  12. scotthm

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    Back in the day you could make great sounding cassette recordings if you spent several thousand dollars on a Nakamichi tape deck, but what would be the point nowadays? I don't miss cassettes.
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  13. publiusr

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    Even though the ribbons could be eaten--the handling of cassettes just feels better than trying to pick a disk out of its container without breaking it. The cassette feels a bit like the inserts we saw Spock handle--though that had no moving parts. Thumb drives are as good as the haptics get. Similar feel in your hand--that's what I mean.
     
  14. Asbo Zaprudder

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    Now my music has been uploaded to the cloud, no longer cluttering up my house, I am glad for things to remain that way. If only that were currently possible for my video collection as well. How long before affordable petabyte cloud storage is available?
     
  15. Butters

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    Nah. Tape had its time, but it was flawed, infuriatingly unreliable. Could I be nostalgic for the hiss of tape like the crunchy crackle of a favourite LP? I have my doubts.
     
  16. Gingerbread Demon

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    Unless they brought back tape in a purely digital format I'd avoid it too.
     
  17. Asbo Zaprudder

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    The other disadvantage of tape is the excruciatingly (relatively) long seek time.
     
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    The main thing I miss about tapes would be some of the sound effects you might get when taping, such as a transition between songs. Can't easily get that on digital.


    Digital is definitely easier in many ways...but I didn't see it when CD'S came out (and were way more expensive to me back then).
     
  19. SPCTRE

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    They are shit. They always have been shit. What is this thread.
     
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  20. JasonJ

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    To my 7 year old self in 1989, playing with my own mixed tapes and recording whatever I damn well pleased, tape to tape dubbing, and all that... cassettes allowed me to learn some level of technology and goof around and have a good time doing it. BUT, sound quality was just OK, even for the era, and eventually the tapes wore out, got eaten by the recorder/player, or any number of other things. (Oxford comma FTW!)

    Then came CD's. Fun fact: my first cd I ever owned was the soundtrack to Star Trek: First Contact. I used to putit into my Sega Saturn game system and play it at night while I went to sleep. CD's were the bomb compared to cassettes.

    Now we have digital, and lossless digital at that. And I am VERY pleased we got there.
     
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