Archer's 'punch' to the Vulcan-The Andorian Incident

[Disillusioned]

Correct: Opinion. Yours.

Is there some point you're trying to make here? Or are you just implying that since I disagree with you that your opinion is somehow more valid than mine?

No, but there's a difference between being right and doing the right thing.

That doesn't make sense.

Not right: He stole a warp coil. He tortured a prisoner. And yet, if he didn't, Earth would've been destroyed. Hence, not right, but did the right thing.

No, those things were presented as being the right thing to do, which made Archer right to do them according to the logic the writers were presenting.

But here's the thing - the entire series was based on the idea that Archer was the very first Starfleet captain,

There are a couple of things here. First, he wasn't the first Starfleet captain because we not only saw that there were other Starfleet captains but it was implied by the presence of an Admiralty. Second, even if he was the first one to really get out there an explore, that isn't an excuse for being so horribly incompetent.

making "mistakes" that other captains would benefit from,

A lot of the "mistakes" he made wouldn't have been made by even modern military personnel.

including a Prime Directive.

The thing that always strikes me is how the writers always acted like there already was one.

I personally believe that no one would rise to acceptance from the Trek community.

What?

You should take it up with the people who wrote the Epic of Gilgamesh or the Bible or Homer, not Hollywood. Hercules, Moses, Gilgamesh, etc. are heroes way before Hollywood was ever created. That's how deeply rooted these are. People in Hollywood use these "cliches" because they feel natural. I can't think of a single show that doesn't follow this formula.

Which doesn't make using the same cliches over and over and over again any better. why should I care at all if it's been used before outside of wanting to see something different for a change?

 

[Anwar]

And what exactly is "different"? A moron who can't tie his shoelaces and gets Earth into a war with every alien species he encounters?