Can someone confirm that Apollo class starships were mentioned but never actually seen on screen, although there is speculation that the Apollo class was a Vulcan designed ship?
JDW
JDW
Apollo Class Starships?
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This might answer your question:
http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Apollo_class
It would seem that, as far as canon is concerned, there was a 24th century starship class named Apollo. Beyond that, all else is a mystery.
http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Apollo_class
It would seem that, as far as canon is concerned, there was a 24th century starship class named Apollo. Beyond that, all else is a mystery.
Named but not seen, so we don't know what the Apollo class starships look like!?
JDW
JDW
Certainly the pairing of registry ranges is similar.
But then again, many other ships besides Nebulas were paired with Galaxies, registry-wise. And the stories themselves don't tell us much about what sort of a ship the Apollo should be. Its missions aren't wildly different from Ambassador ones, or exactly similar to those, or anything that definite.
Timo Saloniemi
But then again, many other ships besides Nebulas were paired with Galaxies, registry-wise. And the stories themselves don't tell us much about what sort of a ship the Apollo should be. Its missions aren't wildly different from Ambassador ones, or exactly similar to those, or anything that definite.
Timo Saloniemi
Meh, I've never really liked that design. It's too much of an attempt to make a Nebula with Ambassador parts. The name only exists in the Encyclopedia anyway, and I've never been entirely convinced that Mike Okuda didn't simply invent some names for the ship chart although he has stated otherwise.
I'm going to say write out, I have great respect for Mike Okuda and what he has done over the years as the closest thing to a...canon-master, archivist, (to use a word) that 'Trek has had. But there is a lot of stuff in the Encyclopedia and his other references I just roll my eyes at and disregard.
For the Apollo class, I've always had a like for the Ambassador nebulaized look. Though, I think it might look better a little scaled down.
^^^ Speaking of the Encyclopedia, I believe it referred to the Apollo as one of the old converted Vulcan ships that was hijacked by the Romulans in "Reunification".
http://www.shipschematics.net/startrek/images/federation/cruiser_apollo1.jpg
I also have these other variants:
http://www.shipschematics.net/startrek/images/federation/cruiser_apollo2.jpg
http://www.shipschematics.net/startrek/images/federation/tacticalcruiser_apollo_prot.jpg
http://www.shipschematics.net/startrek/images/federation/tacticalcruiser_apollo.jpg
http://www.shipschematics.net/startrek/images/federation/galexploration_apollo.jpg
http://www.shipschematics.net/startrek/images/federation/cruiser_apollo1.jpg
I also have these other variants:
http://www.shipschematics.net/startrek/images/federation/cruiser_apollo2.jpg
http://www.shipschematics.net/startrek/images/federation/tacticalcruiser_apollo_prot.jpg
http://www.shipschematics.net/startrek/images/federation/tacticalcruiser_apollo.jpg
http://www.shipschematics.net/startrek/images/federation/galexploration_apollo.jpg
The first edition of the Encyclopedia did. And it never made an ounce of sense - the Vulcan vessels seen were freighters, a role later reasserted in "For the Cause". While the missions credited to the Apollo class in the later Encyclopedias were generic enough, they couldn't really have been handled by transport vessels.
Timo Saloniemi
I agree with you, Seer. There are some classes which Mike helped create for the W359 battle that I consider valid, because the design info on those has been reasonably consistent. But there are other aspects of his work that I've been less pleased with.
The Encyclopedia also lists the USS Gage as an Apollo class, even though this ship was never mentioned onscreen. It was listed in an early draft of the script for "Emissary" in which Sisko was to tell the Saratoga's captain that the Gage, Kyushu and Melbourne were in position to fight the Borg. That section was cut out, but the reference to the Gage still made it into the Encyclopedia.
The Encyclopedia also lists the USS Gage as an Apollo class, even though this ship was never mentioned onscreen. It was listed in an early draft of the script for "Emissary" in which Sisko was to tell the Saratoga's captain that the Gage, Kyushu and Melbourne were in position to fight the Borg. That section was cut out, but the reference to the Gage still made it into the Encyclopedia.
I suppose I should point out that that was precisely the point when I drew it.
Like everything on the ASDB project is was just a speculative design and at the time I made that one, Apollo was one of the few undecided designs left and the only other idea floating around was to adapt the Ralph McQuarrie (sp?) study model, which just seamed like a bad idea to me though only slightly more lazy than kitbashing the Ambassador.
I should say though, that the drawings currently out there were only supposed to be for proof of concept, I never got around to finishing the finalised plans which were to have many subtle differences in detail from the Ambassador.
Mostly things that would show it was a slightly older design with some throwback to the Excelsior.
Blip said:
Uhh, says who exactly?As far as I'm aware, there isn't even a semi-canon Aries-class - let alone a canon one!
In fact, the only TNG-era reference I can find is to a Renaissance-class USS Aries, NCC-45167.
I was referencing the old Apollo era NASA space program and it's spiritual successor Constellation which has a craft named Aries.
^^^ Right. And Ares was the Greek god of war, which later became Mars in the Roman pantheon. Aries is the constellation and zodiacal sign, if I recall my mythology correctly.
