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Anyone paying attention to the new pope thing?

Pope Francis I? Encouraging.

can someone explain the significance of Francis to this former heathen?

St. Francis of Assissi is widely considered one of the most beloved, down to earth and humble saints in Roman Catholic history. I'm not Catholic nor any kind of theology expert so I suggest Googling and using Wikipedia for more and better info.
 
Francis of Assisi was obviously the first one that came to my mind, too, but I just saw that the guy's a Jesuit, so he could also be thinking of Saint Francis Xavier.
 
Francis of Assisi was obviously the first one that came to my mind, too, but I just saw that the guy's a Jesuit, so he could also be thinking of Saint Francis Xavier.
I thought Assisi as well, until my co-worker, a former seminarian suggested that it was most likely Xavier. I was rooting for Timothy Dolan, only because I met him a few years ago when he was still an Arch Bishop. Hilarious guy.
 
Francis of Assisi was obviously the first one that came to my mind, too, but I just saw that the guy's a Jesuit, so he could also be thinking of Saint Francis Xavier.
I thought Assisi as well, until my co-worker, a former seminarian suggested that it was most likely Xavier. ....
So if we don't know who why is it a good start? I guess if it was a Saint with a unique name a distinction for good or bad can be made
 
A Catholic analyst just said it's possible the new Pope had both men named Francis in mind when he picked his name.
 
You understood correctly. His choice of name is a good start!

That's about all that sounds good so far, though...
Gay marriage is a "machination of the Father of Lies." Adoption by gay people is discrimination against children. Words of wisdom from the new Pope who distanced himself from the liberation theology movement (the priests and nuns who actively opposed dictators and took risks for social justice). The woman president of Argentina said the Catholic Church under his leadership in the country was reminiscent of "medieval times and the inquisition."

Sounds like a prick to me.
 
Francis of Assisi was obviously the first one that came to my mind, too, but I just saw that the guy's a Jesuit, so he could also be thinking of Saint Francis Xavier.
I thought Assisi as well, until my co-worker, a former seminarian suggested that it was most likely Xavier. ....
So if we don't know who why is it a good start? I guess if it was a Saint with a unique name a distinction for good or bad can be made

Well, when I said it was a good start, I was assuming it was a reference to the much loved and humble Francis of Assisi. Plus I like the (not necessarily intentional) symbolism of a new name that no pope has used before. But then I thought of Francis Xavier, and he could be a good role model, too. One of the original Jesuits, missionary, very spiritual.

A Catholic analyst just said it's possible the new Pope had both men named Francis in mind when he picked his name.

I think it's quite likely.

You understood correctly. His choice of name is a good start!

That's about all that sounds good so far, though...
Gay marriage is a "machination of the Father of Lies." Adoption by gay people is discrimination against children. Words of wisdom from the new Pope who distanced himself from the liberation theology movement (the priests and nuns who actively opposed dictators and took risks for social justice). The woman president of Argentina said the Catholic Church under his leadership in the country was reminiscent of "medieval times and the inquisition."

Sounds like a prick to me.

Yeah. :sigh: I like the name, I like that he's a Jesuit, I like that he isn't European. So far, that's where my "likes" stop.
 
Yeah, it's probably going to take another generation or longer before all the insensitive and downright homophobic cardinals die off or retire and can no longer elect Popes or be Papal candidates themselves. Frankly I'm not surprised in the least that the new Pope doesn't approve of same-sex marriage....it's not as if the College of Cardinals is a den of 21st century socially progressive thought. I know some people were expecting the Catholic Church to be turned upside down by the results of this Conclave, but that just doesn't happen with a faith that's 2,000 years old and steeped in archaic and ancient dogma and habits.
 
I had hoped to see a glimpse of new thinking and a more liberal view on the world. But I guess the people who are old enough to be elected pope are too set in their ways to change.
 
^Don't be so sure. People said that when John XXIII was elected in 1958 (he was 77), but he's the one who convened the Second Vatican Council that was responsible for major changes in the church.
 
Surprised by the pick. If they were going South American, Scherer was my bet.

Thank God (pun intended) he's not Italian, but (as many Argentinian) he's the son of an Italian emigrant (coincidentally, his father hailed from the same city I did).

Generally speaking, I respect Jesuits more than other orders (which is not saying much, but still). They are quite active in the sciences, voiced for a full apology of the Church for the Galileo trial, wholeheartedly support the theory of evolution and vigorously oppose "intelligent design"; a Jesuit is the chief of the Vatican Astronomical Observatory.
 
Yes, but I'm not sure if the "I" is officially part of his name or not. I don't think it's added until there's a "II".

*edit: Crap, ninja'd!*
 
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