Anyone here NOT seen Nemesis?

[Gary7]

I haven't... I usually don't go to first showings anyway. But after a few weeks, I began to hear that it was one of the worst Star Trek movies. So, I left it alone and never got around to seeing it. I figured one day I'll download it or catch it on cable. Or should I just forget about it?

Anyone here not seen Nemesis and expect that they never will?

 

[urbandk]

I haven't... I usually don't go to first showings anyway. But after a few weeks, I began to hear that it was one of the worst Star Trek movies. So, I left it alone and never got around to seeing it. I figured one day I'll download it or catch it on cable. Or should I just forget about it?

Anyone here not seen Nemesis and expect that they never will?

I have and can confirm that it stinks. I never saw Insurrection though. The previews of Data saying "lock and load" made me wince every time.

 

[BriGuy]

I saw it in the theater along with my dad. I liked it and he loved it.

Wasn't until I got online that I found out I should have vomited in the aisle.

I say rent it, watch it and decide for yourself. You may like it. Some people actually do. I can enjoy watching it. Don't let others tell you what you should think.

 

[Crusher Disciple]

I saw it listed on AMC. Is it really an "American Movie 'Classic?'" Or are we scraping the bottom of the barrel for programing?
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[cardinal biggles]

AMC stopped being "American Movie Classics" a few years ago. Now it's just three letters (kind of like how TLC isn't supposed to stand for "The Learning Channel" anymore), although I guess one could make a case for saying it stands for "American Movie Channel."

 

[Gary7]

I say rent it, watch it and decide for yourself. You may like it. Some people actually do. I can enjoy watching it. Don't let others tell you what you should think.

You make a good point... I was just curious to see how many people would chime up and say that it wouldn't be worth my time. I'll probably end up seeing it... at least having the option to fast-forward will come in handy, from what I'm hearing.

 

[tharpdevenport]

AMC actually showed "Catwoman" a few days ago! It's definitively "American" but other than that it's neither a "classic", nor could it be qauntified as a "movie" -- in my oinion.


Anyway, sad to say, I am not part of the crowd that missed Nemesis. Not, I saw that suckfest first hand. I almost walked out of the theater it was so bad. And, another sad aspect: Jerry Goldsmith's lacking score. Guess he wasn't inspired either.

 

[c0rnedfr0g]

I saw it in the theater along with my dad. I liked it and he loved it.

Wasn't until I got online that I found out I should have vomited in the aisle.

I say rent it, watch it and decide for yourself. You may like it. Some people actually do. I can enjoy watching it. Don't let others tell you what you should think.

Kinda hypocritical advice you give: at first you liked it, but then other ppls' opinions online changed yours. So you tell the OP to not let others influence him/her

Usually your initial gut reaction is correct in that it is indicative of how you truly feel.

 

[urbandk]

I saw it in the theater along with my dad. I liked it and he loved it.

Wasn't until I got online that I found out I should have vomited in the aisle.

I say rent it, watch it and decide for yourself. You may like it. Some people actually do. I can enjoy watching it. Don't let others tell you what you should think.

Kinda hypocritical advice you give: at first you liked it, but then other ppls' opinions online changed yours. So you tell the OP to not let others influence him/her

Usually your initial gut reaction is correct in that it is indicative of how you truly feel.

he was being facetious, indicating that he liked it despite what people said.

 

[Too Much Fun]

I don't think you (or most people) would like it seeing it for the first time now. I saw it in the theatre and loved it, then was flabbergasted when I went online and saw what a pounding it was taking from the fanboys. "What the hell do these people want?", I thought. It was only later that I realized the real reason I liked it so much was because I was totally blinded by my own hype. When "Generations" came out, I wasn't really aware enough of movie releases or a frequent enough moviegoer to see them, and when "First Contact" came out, I just didn't have anyone to go with or time to see it. When "Insurrection" came out, I was too busy attending a new high school outside of North America to be aware of what was going on with movie releases there.

"Nemesis" was the first Star Trek movie I had a chance to see with someone since becoming a Star Trek fan circa 1992, so I was incredibly stoked about seeing it. After ten years of fandom, I finally got a chance to go to a theatre and see a Star Trek movie as a full-fledged Trekkie, old enough to appreciate and feel grateful for the experience.

With that kind of bias, they could have thrown together just about anything with the TNG crew and I would have eaten it up happily, and that's basically what happened. I watched it and was just enthralled the whole time with the thrill of seeing Picard, Data, and all my favourites up on the big screen for the first time. I even enjoyed the very obviously cartoonish villainy of the bad guy, not realizing what a stupid idea the character and plot surrounding it were.

It was only later when I gave some serious thought to the plot and characters I'd seen that I realized what a poorly conceived movie it was. So I think if you can go into the movie under the warm glow of unshakably positive fandom-inspired enthusiasm and do the proverbial "turn your brain off", you can probably enjoy it.

On the other hand, if you approach the movie with an alert mind that's going to try to thoughtfully assess the plausibility and creativity of what you're seeing, it'll probably be a huge drag. When it comes on TV now, I can barely get through 5 minutes before I'm so bummed out by its mediocrity that I have to change the channel, but seeing it for the first time, I was in awe from start to finish. I even bought the climax as a powerful and poignant moment rather than the cheap shock tactic it really was.

 

[c0rnedfr0g]

I saw it in the theater along with my dad. I liked it and he loved it.

Wasn't until I got online that I found out I should have vomited in the aisle.

I say rent it, watch it and decide for yourself. You may like it. Some people actually do. I can enjoy watching it. Don't let others tell you what you should think.

Kinda hypocritical advice you give: at first you liked it, but then other ppls' opinions online changed yours. So you tell the OP to not let others influence him/her

Usually your initial gut reaction is correct in that it is indicative of how you truly feel.

he was being facetious, indicating that he liked it despite what people said.

sarcasm is not logical

 

[T'Boggan]

It is the weakest movie by far. I never saw it in the cinema I just waited for the DVD to come out and bought it. I have watched it once...If I threw it out my Trek movie collection would be incomplete. Thats all it has going for it IMHO

 

[apenpaap]

It's the worst movie of them all, but you should still see it, to judge from yourself. The ENT forum has a lot of people who didn't watch Enterprise at first because people said it sucks, and later came back to it and discovered they like it. Maybe you will like nemesis.

 

[cultcross]

Every time a Star Trek movie is made, particularly this new one, you get a crowd of fans claiming they'll 'boycott' it for whatever reason. I'd love to know how many actually do this for each film.
How many people in, say, 3 years time will actually not have seen JJ's Star Trek?

 

[tharpdevenport]

Me. If I had known in advance how bad Nemsis was going to be, I would have not watched that either.

 

[Eddie Roth]

Gary7, just watch it and decide for yourself. I just rewatched Nemesis yesterday, and while it may not be the most well-made film of them all, it's entertaining. And I personally don't see why it's THAT hated around here. Also know that a more general audience (fans that aren't as hardcore and vocal about it as some folks here) does not think it's the worst ST film ever made (cf. the people on the new Star Trek movie website forum).

 

[Aike]

I like it. It´s actually a good movie and not just a big budget TNG episode like the first three films. I think that is why some hate it

You may find this review of it interesting:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3JaxKHniVQ&feature=related

(But there are some big spoilers in it.)

 

[Falcor5]

I haven't... I usually don't go to first showings anyway. But after a few weeks, I began to hear that it was one of the worst Star Trek movies. So, I left it alone and never got around to seeing it. I figured one day I'll download it or catch it on cable. Or should I just forget about it?

Anyone here not seen Nemesis and expect that they never will?

It was just on AMC-HD two days ago to bad you missed it. Looked great in HD. I say it is definitely worth renting.

 

[milo bloom]

Just watched it for the first time a few weeks back. A lot of interesting ideas, but the fact that they didn't toss the found android parts into the nearest supernova after all their past experiences with Soong-type androids just soured the whole mess.

It was interesting, since I had heard for so long how bad it was, finally watching it wasn't as painful as expected.

I wish I could say the same about These Are The Voyages, didn't watch that one until last year and it was far, far worse than anything I could ever imagine.

 

[ancient]

Even though I think it's the worst Trek movie and a big load of crap, I would still watch it at least once just to know what's there.

It's not agressively bad, it just suffers from being tired, contrived, boring, and a complete rip-off of other, vastly better films - mostly TWOK. It suffers from who-gives-a-shit syndrome. The director didn't give a shit, and boy does it show.

Stupid technobabble doomsday weapon? Check. Extremely flat acting and poor editing? Check. contrived, poorly explained villian? Yes. Repetitive, techobabble-laced battles? Got it. Evil twin? Got several of them. Extremely contrived scenes that make the characters look dumb? Oh yes!

So yeah, it's about on par with one of the lamer Voyager episodes. You can watch it, there are some pretty pictures, but overall it's a big pile of nothing much.