Maybe they do, but that doesn't mean they're right. There are definitely adult themes running through the show that children would not understand.
Anyone else notice this little joke..?
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I think the TONE is still very much the same actually. The plotting is different.
I don't know... there was the practically naked Harkness in one episode--the robots stripping him naked.
Basically the same thing as the Lesbian Lizard thing.
Go back and watch them. The tone and the innuendo are pretty much the same as what's happening now.
I'm sure the BBC would keep an eye on such things.
As far as I can tell, the only country in the world that has ever considered Doctor Who a kid's show, at least in the last 40 years, is the UK. And even then most serious fans consider it a "family show", as do the writers and producers.
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Or...he's dictated to, by the Suits, that it's a Kids show, and he has a certain set of boundaries he must accommodate, and he's good at finding loopholes, and/or pushing the limits of those boundaries, perhaps.
Or kids don't have to have their programs dumbed down. I watched Batman and X-Men 90s tv shows, which had plenty of mature themes for children's shows.
Because kids only want to hear about ponies and rainbows?
I'm not sure what you mean by "adult themes" but kids aren't dumb blocks of wood. They go through things. Harry Potter deals with large themes and it's considered for kids.
And in another interview, which I can't seem to find but I'll keep trying (DWM I think), he added something like; "...and when I say kids, I mean kids of all ages."
No, kids aren't dumb blocks of wood, but calling something a "kid's show" assumes that it's ONLY for kids. Things like "Thomas the Tank Engine" and "Mickey Mouse Clubhouse" are kid's shows. Things like "Doctor Who" and "Harry Potter" are family shows. They're meant to be enjoyed by everybody.
Because kids only want to hear about ponies and rainbows?
I'm not sure what you mean by "adult themes" but kids aren't dumb blocks of wood. They go through things. Harry Potter deals with large themes and it's considered for kids.
I know this is all semantics, but I think it's a valid point. A kid-friendly show is not the same as a kid's show.
Well, "Family Show" is a relatively recent term invented pretty much so adults wouldn't be afraid to watch the show. Kids show and family show used to be synonymous.
No, it doesn't. Calling something a kid's show means that it's primary demographic is children. By your definition both My Little Pony and Power Rangers are family shows because they have a large minority adult fanbase. A family show is something that is intended for all ages more equally such as TNG or Hercules: The Legendary Journeys.
I remember the massive unnecessary shitstorm caused by the mild implication that Ursula the paving slab was giving Elton blowjobs in "Love and Mosters". Now we can get jokes about lesbian lizards using their massive tongues to pleasure their lovers without incident.
Times change quickly.
Times change quickly.
No, it has to do with intent. I just can't see the current Doctor Who being written as though children are supposed to be its main demographic. I mean, maybe it's because I live in America where the show isn't as easily accessible, but the only people I know that watch it are adults.
That just might be why. It's being SOLD in America as a Sci-Fi show. It's ALWAYS been a niche show for science fiction fans in the US.
But, in the UK, I imagine, it's ALWAYS been sold as a FAMILY SHOW.
Would I show it to a five year old? No. But, is it something I would watch with my 10 year old, hell yes.
But let me ask you, what about the show itself, why do you not think it's written for the whole family? Is it the plotting? The themes? Which themes aren't for children?
I think it's perfectly fine for children. My argument was that there is a difference between kid's show and family show.
Kid's show: specifically intended for kids, not meant for adults
Family show: intended for kids and adults
Adult show: specifically intended for adults, not meant for kids
People have been arguing that it's a kid's show. I was just saying that while it is certainly kid-friendly, it's not intended specifically for them alone. There are aspects to the Doctor's character and his relationships with his companions that an adult will simply be able to appreciate more than a child, but that doesn't mean a child can't enjoy the show on different merits.
I think now it's just splitting hairs and what each person means by a kids show. Maybe for Moffat means that a kids show is for kids and adults can enjoy it too or maybe Moffat means a kids show is meant for families.
And maybe there's a cultural difference in the meaning of the kids show. My wife and i will ALWAYS stumble on the subtle meaning of a word--she grew up in another English speaking country.
But, in the end, you would agree, Doctor Who is as much for kids as it is for adults, regardless if it's labeled a kids show or a family show, right?
But, you would prefer to watch a family show than a kids show?
I remember the massive unnecessary shitstorm caused by the mild implication that Ursula the paving slab was giving Elton blowjobs in "Love and Mosters". Now we can get jokes about lesbian lizards using their massive tongues to pleasure their lovers without incident.
Times change quickly.
Sorry, mild implication? The Ursula bit is still about the one time I think NuWho's gone a trifle too far. Lesbian tongue action is all about knowing looks that'd probably go over kids' heads, the paving slab joke specifically mentions having a sex life, and given all the poor girl has left is a mouth that's not exactly mild...and I gues it's a one sided sex life as well!
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