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Episode 76 season 4 #8 "Crusader"

When I was in college, a friend said "Star Trek" was the series most easily adapted to the radio, because of all the distinctive sounds in the show. When we heard the tricorder, transporter, photon torpedoes, we knew exactly what was going on and didn't need anyone to fill in the blanks.

For the first 2 seasons of Voyager, I used to "listen" to Star Trek radio... my reception was so bad it was the sound/story I listened to, until someone was nice enough to hand me off their tapes of the show so I could "see" what I was missing.

"WHAT" does this have to do with "Crusader"???

If you only listened to this show, you'd miss most of the important points.

You have to "see" Xena, and Gabrielle and Najara to get to the real story.

I'll try to paint their reactons.

TPTB have introduced a new character... Najara a Warrior Saint (if not a Princess) who is led into battle by the voices of the Jinn, spirits that represent "the light/the goodness" that infuse Najara with purpose and not a little hubris.

Najara's men have attacked Xena & Gabrielle and are regretting their decision when the teaser opens. Stragglers warn Najara and like a good leader she gallops into the fray, knocking down not only Gabby but Xena herself with her charging steed. Xena recovers first and basically kicks Najara off the horse and the two get into some serious sword play. Gabby, gods love her, tries to help but ends up on the ground at Najara's feet as Najara raises her swordhands high to strike the killing blow...

...and then she stops.

Her face is so strange, so transformed that Xena is momentarily stunned and stays her own killing throw from her mightly chakram. Gabby isn't much better, but comes to first, hopping up from her prostrate position and jumping behind that Warrior Princess she's traveled with these last 3+years.

Both women are confused :confused: and intrigued as Najara "comes to" and begs their forgiveness.

And thus the teaser ends.

When act 1 begins, we realize there's something more to the Jinn than just some warrior induced hallucination on Najara's part. That or she's been listening to the warlords she's captured about a certain WP and her trusty sidekick! ;)

Najara: (To her 2nd in command) "You were wrong. These two are on a journey, a quest. And they're our allies in our fight against darkness. My name is Najara."
Gabrielle: "I'm Gabrielle. This is Xena."
Najara: "You've suffered much, Gabrielle, but you've retained your good heart. (To Xena) And you have chosen to fight the darkness within you. What courage that takes. Please forgive us."

Suddenly, within just a few minutes, she's managed to start the seduction of the most unusual power couple in ancient Greece.

The Warrior in Najara has captured Xena's attention with her skill, her strength, and her ability to STOP herself in the midst of a kill. Amazing control that can only be truly appreciated by another Warrior. The soul that seeks to atone, also can't ignore Najara's mission.

Xena: "What's your mission?"
Najara: "To fight evil wherever we find it."
Xena: "Can you be a little more specific?"
Najara: "We're riding against Marat."

The Saint in Najara has captured the imagination of the battling Bard who has longed to answer certain fundamental questions about herself. Someone who knows how to stop and smell the roses, who communes regularly with her spirits, who dreams of peaceful actions (Hospice) not just fighting.

Najara: "No-- I'm just enjoying the scenery."
Gabrielle: "You do that too."
Najara: "Yes, all the time."
Gabrielle: "Najara? How long have you been hearing the Jinn?"
Najara: "Since I was a little girl. At first, they frightened me. After a while, I began to trust them, and now, they're my best friends. They're so wonderful so full of love and goodness."
Gabrielle: "Where do they come from?"
Najara: "The light. They're sent to me so that I can fight the darkness. It's quite a responsibility. [Sighs] Well, I think we've smelled the flowers enough. Come on. Let's get back to the others."

And like a GOOD Svengali, Najara knows just what buttons to push with both women. At the campfire that night, challenging the obviously doubting Xena to LEAD Najara's army into battle, while advising the skittish Gabrielle to "listen" to Xena's doubts until Najara has a chance to prove herself to both of them. Xena looked so smug when Najara told Gabby, that Xena "was right".

Najara: "Wonderful. I can't tell you how much I love the challenge of winning your confidence. and you should listen to her. Don't trust me too soon. Xena's wiser in that way. Sleep well."
Xena: "Oh, we will."
(Najara goes back to sit with her sleeping men/"army", leaving the two alone.)

Gabrielle: "You're a tough sell."
Xena: "I'm not going into any village with any army unless I'm sure I'm doing the right thing."
Gabrielle: "I understand." (Looks intrigued at Najara, praying next to her men) "I don't know what to make of her."

The next day, Xena sneaks into the village with Najara/Gabby/ and that "army" left on the outskirts. When she discovers the slavetraders are indeed in the village/taking hostages, Xena sends a signal and starts fighting by herself.

Soon, the Warrior Princess is joined by the Warrior Saint, and Najara matches Xena blow for blow, death for death. Before long the battle pours out of the barn where Xena and Najara were and out into the village "streets" where Gabby and the "army" are fighting as well.

Xena sees a slave trader point a crossbow at her friend, she SCREAMS for Gabrielle and begins running to get between her best friend and the threat just as the crossbolt takes flight. :scream: SUDDENLY a hand reaches out and SNATCHES the crossbolt out of the air, like we've seen SO MANY times before... and yet WE AND XENA are shocked to see the hand holding the bolt isn't Xena's... Its Najara's! :eek:

Who's that girl?
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And the seduction of Gabrielle continues.

Najara: (To the captured slavetraders) "You fought with great courage. That can be a virtue, but only when it's used on the side of the light against darkness. The capture and selling of people is wrong."
Man's Voice:
"Listen up!"
Najara: "It shames both its victims and those who would profit from this evil. Slavery paves the path to darkness. We can offer you initiation into the way of the light. Let us help you."
Gabrielle: "Do you think it got through to them?"
Najara [Sighs]: "I hope so. Turning people away from their dark side is the most important thing I do. Who know? Some of these men, one day, might be great leaders of the light."

Hmmm. Isn't that what Gabrielle has been doing these last 3+ years? Turning Xena away from her darkness, to the light?

And the seduction of Xena continues...


(For those people who think Xena has forgotten Alti's premonition, you know, the one not even referred to since episode 3's Family Affair", we see that XENA hasn't forgotten it. Once again we see the shield, Xena's reflection as she's laid upon the cross, Gabrielle's legs, torso, head as the camera pans up her body, then her face turns towards Xena one last time as she says...
Gabrielle: "I love you, Xena." )

(Back to "present day Greece, and Najara entering the barn where Xena is standing with Argo. She knows something Xena doesn't realize she knows.)

Najara: "It's a great curse to have seen one's own death."
Xena:
"The Jinn told you?"
Naj: "Yes, but not everything. Your vision of death, does it... ?"
Xena: (Not looking at her fellow warrior, she answers honestly) "Yes. It includes Gabrielle."
Naj: "Does she know?"
Xena: "No."
Najara: "That's fortunate for her."
Xena: (Face frighteningly open) "Do you think it can be avoided?"
Najara: "Of course. I believe our destiny is in our hearts. But it will take drastic measures to change an event you've foreseen in your soul's eye."

The scene ends with Gabrielle entering the barn, and Najara gives an almost unexpected jump, as if the two were being interrupted doing something they shouldn't have been doing.

Gabrielle: "Xena? There you are."
Najara: "Listen, I don't know what your plans are, but-- Marat controls a village about a day's ride from here. He uses it as a center for his slave trade. That's where I'm headed. Would you like to join me?"

(The looks between Gabrielle and Xena were quite telling, as Gabby first looks for Xena's lead, finds none, then offers her own...)

Gabrielle: "Yes."

(The looks continue, almost as if Gabby wonders if Xena will follow, and as if Xena wonders if she should.)

Xena: "Sure."
Najara: "Wonderful."

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Xena and Gabrielle are walking with Najara's "army", following Najara on her trusty steed, Bonacar.

Xena: "Gabrielle? You've been awful quiet. You all right?"
Gabrielle: "Yeah, I was just thinking about yesterday, amazing."
Xena: "Yeah, amazing."
Gabrielle: (Looks up when she hears the call of birds in flight) "Swans!"
Najara:
"Looks like they're headed for Kuta Lake." (Reaches out her hand to Gabrielle) "Let's go see them up close." (Gabby hops up on the horse behind Najara without a second thought as Najara speaks to her men) "We'll catch up with you at Revo Falls." (Then turns to Xena) "Will you join us?"
Xena: "No, thanks. I'm not one for bird-watching." (Then watches the two ride away, Gabby clutching Najara as Bonacar picks up speed) :alienblush:

Gabrielle and Najara have quite the tete e tete alongside the lake. Its either to Najara's credit as a "saint".. or her discredit as a Svengali that she seems to be encouraging Gabrielle to stay with Xena.

Najara: "You fight for good. What other path is there?"
Gabrielle: "You mentioned opening a hospice."
Najara: "That would be a good way, too. Why don't you do that? I don't mind if you start without me."
Gabrielle: "You see, if I do that-- then Xena and I have to go our separate ways. She's not the hospice type."
Najara: "Yes, I see. She's on a different path. Well perhaps you need to commit totally to your life with Xena. You two do a lot of good."

What's most interesting about this scene, however, is the woman watching from the treeline. One wonders what she can hear from so far away or what she can lip read from so far away. In the end, one realizes all she's reading is the body language from her companion of nearly 3 and a half years.

(At Najara's war council, the night before their next raid)

Xena: "I'll take my chances."
Gabrielle: "Look-- I've learned you should listen to Xena when it comes to this sort of thing."
Najara: "All right. Xena will go after Marat-- while we take the village."
Man's Voice: (Steps aside to speak with Najara) "What is your plan of attack?"
Gabrielle: (Steps aside to speak with Xena) "When do we head out?"
Xena: "I'm heading out before dawn. You stay with Najara."
Gabrielle: "Are you sure?"
Xena: "Sure..."

In the season 1 reviews, I made this comment...

I think there must be some sort of "law of friendship /sisterhood /brotherhood." that reads... "If you are about to do something for me that you CAN'T tell me about because I will stop you... then you MUST tell me about it IMMEDIATELY so I CAN stop you!"

I stand by that comment in season 4.

WHY won't these women LISTEN to me??? :cardie:

Oh, right.

No drama, no angst, no reason to watch the show week after week, much less buy 6 seasons on FREAKING DVD!!!!"

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Part 2 of episode 76 season 4 #8 "Crusader"

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(Its the middle of the night, before the raid on Marat's slave center. Everyone is asleep except for Najara, praying to her Jinn alone in the woods, and...)
Xena: "Najara, your hospice, why don't you start it in the village you're going to take tomorrow."
Najara: "Ah now I understand. You don't plan to return after your mission against Marat. You want a place to leave Gabrielle."
Xena: "She'll die if she stays with me. You said it would take something drastic to change our destiny. Maybe this is it."
Naj: "As soon as she realizes you've left her, you know she'll follow you."
Xena: "I see such joy in her eyes when she talks to you about your mission. She's been looking for meaning. I think you can give it to her. It hasn't always been good for her, being with me. I seem ... to hurt her."
Najara:
"I know she forgives you. I promise I'll do everything I can to justify your trust."
Xena: "You better. Thanks"

(And later, back at the campsite where Gabrielle is sleeping soundly next to the fire, surrounded by Najara's "army".)

Xena: (Softly, from a distance, she whispers) "Goodbye, Gabrielle."

:brickwall: Just a plot point, it's just a plot point. Its going to get better... :sigh:

Najara and her Army have taken the village back from the slave traders, and Najara has poured her beneficence over the prisoners much to Gabrielle's liking. She's also informed the village (and indirectly Gabby) that she plans to open her hospice NOW, and Gabby, the battling bard, the Amazon Queen decides its time to turn from Violence and enter "the light".

Her ceremony of induction is nothing like when she was taken into the Amazon tribe... it was more like a betrothal as Najara crowned her with a wreath of flowers and hugged her as her followers crowded around and begin to sing...

People: "Show us our course... Lead us to glory....And through the darknest night... Strengthen our will to fight... Justice our cause... Faith is our beacon..."

There's just one teeny tiny problem...

Najara: "I know she forgives you. I promise I'll do everything I can to justify your trust."
Xena: "You better..."


SOMEONE didn't keep up her end of the bargain. :evil:

Gabrielle: (Looks up happily as Xena stalks into the tavern) "Xena! I'm glad you came."
Xena: (Coldly) "Najara."
Najara: "I didn't expect to see you."
Xena: (Her eyes narrow into Ares' favorite "steely eyed gaze") "There's been a change of plans."
Najara: (Butter wouldn't melt in her mouth right now) "Why is that?"
Xena: (Foreshadowing only for Najara) "I captured Marat."
Najara: "Congratulations."
Xena: (Presses her advantage, though Najara doesn't realize it yet) "He told me some interesting things about you. He said that you offer prisoners three days to turn to the light, and then you kill them."
Gabrielle:
(Takes off flower wreath as she scoffs) "Xena, he's a slave trader. You don't believe him, do you?"
Xena: (The Warrior Princess still has eyes ONLY for the Warrior Saint) "Come on, Najara, how about it? Do you execute unarmed men without a trial?"
Najara: "Definitely not."
Gabrielle: (Justified, as she continues to try and draw Xena's attention away from Najara)"You see, Xena?"
Najara:
"I liberate their souls."
Gabrielle: (Her head whips back to Najara, as if she's been backhanded) "What does that mean?"

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What indeed.

The body language that continues is even better than the dialogue, as Xena tries to call Gabrielle out of the tavern/away from Najara, and Najara puts up an arm to prevent Gabrielle from following. Gabrielle's face when Najara tells Xena " she's my responsibility now. As you said yourself, you hurt her..." is priceless. As is Xena's face when she tells Gabrielle to get out of the way and draws her sword.


Najara: (To her men) "This is between Xena and me. Stay out of it." (To Xena) "The light will triumph, Xena."
Xena: "Quit preaching and fight."
Najara:
"All right."

It was a good fight, as fights go.

Except for one thing.

Xena LOST! :eek:

And suddenly, its deja vue all over again.

Only this time its Xena prostrate on the ground... knocked out, actually, at Najara's feet as Najara raises both hands to strike the killing blow...

... and she's stopped.

But this time, not by the Jinn.

Gabrielle: (Cries out as she watches the WP go down the final time) "Xena."
Najara:
(Drops the log she's pummeled Xena with and picks up her sword, raising it high above her head) "In the name of the light! I smite the darkness!"
Gabrielle:
"What?! No-o-o-o-o!" (Gabrielle runs forward and throws herself over Xena's unconscious body) "You'll have to kill us both."
Najara:
(Hands stayed, but still upraised, knowing more about Gabrielle's Warrior than even Gabrielle knows.) "You don't understand, Gabrielle, that darkness inside her will destroy you one day."

Now, I have to admit, I thought it was a little weird.. no, wrong word, a little "stupid" :alienblush: for TPTB to put "Locked Up/Tied Down" back to back with "Crusader". I mean really, two eps with women infatuated with Gabrielle, one after the other? And yet, to be fair, it probably made more sense from a story telling POV that after her experiences with Thalassa...

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(Deleted scene from Locked up/Tied down go to 8:05 ) ... Gabrielle was more in-tuned with her effect on some women.


Gabrielle: "Put the sword down. Najara, you and I, we'll walk out of here together."
Najara: "You're just saying that to protect her."
Gabrielle: "Xena's dark side frightens me. I need to move on, but I could never live with someone who killed her. There would be no going back from that."
Najara: "All right. All right...." (Najara lowers her sword and Gabrielle stands up and WALKS AWAY from Xena.)

The other important thing about putting these two eps together is that we DO have a recent reminder of Xena's dark side, and how it can frighten Gabrielle. Surely Gabrielle didn't supress that X:WP confession of "just" a week ago?


Xena: "Gabrielle, she was like you. She had your kind of spirit, and I killed that. What can outweigh that?"

Fav scene of the entire show, "this" week? Xena waking up on the tavern floor, looking around, realizing her enemies AND Gabrielle are gone, then stiffly walking over to the bartender and his son.

Xena [Sighs]: "Some water." (Tries to rinse her mouth out, and ends up spitting out a molar along with the blood.) I hate that. (Looks at the boy sitting ontop the bar) "I got my butt whipped, didn't I?"
Boy: (Wide-eyed) "Uh-huh."
Xena:
"Well, it serves me right for trusting someone who talks about being good all the time. You know what? She's a tough girl-- but she's got a weakness." (Looks at a reflection of herself) "It's the same one I've got." :bolian:

Again, Xena was MUCH faster than I was, the first time through, but to be fair I wasn't as used to "looking for subtext", so I think I can be "forgiven". :rommie:

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Loved the reunion with Gabrielle, after Xena drew Najara away from the caves to check on her men.

Gabrielle: "Xena, we should get out of here."
Xena: "No."(Xena grabs Gabrielle TOO TIGHTLY by the wrist as she proclaims) "She's too dangerous a girl to leave on the loose. She likes killing too much."
Gabrielle: (Relieved to be released from Xena's grip) "But she beat you up so badly."
Xena:
"Well, that's another reason."
Gabrielle: "Xena-- "
(Xena drops a large rock down a crevasse to check its depth.)
Xena: (Very satisfied, as Gabrielle looks on concerned) "Ooh, that's gonna hurt."

So...Xena has Najara where she wants her. On the defensive, trying to PROTECT Gabrielle. The young bard is tied up and apparantly hanging from a timber stretching over the crevasse. A torch is burning through the rope holding Gabrielle. VERY reminscent of the danger Gabrielle was placed in the first time she met Callisto in season 1.

Only THIS time, its a trick. Gabby is standing on a timber, out of Najara's view.

Wicked! :devil:


Gabrielle: "Najara!"
Xena:
(Cocky as all get out!) "So glad you could make it."
Gabrielle: "Be careful, Najara, she's snapped. Uh! Uh! Uh!"
Najara: "Do you expect me to believe you're going to let her die?"
Xena: (NOT looking cuckolded at all, just really REALLY pissed off!) "Well, let's just see, shall we? I just asked her to come with me right now and you know what she said? She said she'd rather stay here and try to reform you. Seems that your zealotry is less scary than my dark side, sniveling ingrate. But if I can't have her, nobody's gonna have her. It's part of that drastic change you talked about and it's sure gonna change by my destiny."
Najara: "I knew you were no good for her."

FIGHT!

Its nice to see that even a Warrior PRINCESS isn't above a little TRASH TALKING when in the middle of a duel!


Xena: (Throws Najara to the ground) "You see, it's a little more difficult with a millstone like her around your neck, isn't it? You probably wouldn't care if one of your soldiers died. They'd just go up to that big, old light in the sky. But you might miss Gabrielle, huh?"
Gabrielle: (Drawing Najara's attention to the torch burning through the rope) "Najara, hurry!"
Xena:
"If ya don't mind my saying, your focus is a little off." :rommie:
Najara:
(Lunges for the WP. Bad move.) "Ah! Uh!"

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There WAS one thing that needed ears more than sight to enjoy in this ep. After Xena shackles Najara's left wrist and pulls her up from the edge of the crevasse, we HEAR the WP deliver one final PUNCH to the WS.

I know. :bolian:

I'm evil too. :evil:


Which part of the "ending" struck me the most?

Not Gabby's goodbye to Najara.

Not Najara's forgiveness of Gabby's "betrayal".

It was the two Warriors' farewell.

Xena: "Did you tell her about the vision?"
Najara:
"No. That would hurt her, and I don't ever want to do that. That's your job.

:ouch:

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Gabby/Autolycus? Yeah I could see it but then I could see a great many things in this series;):p

Now, Najara aka the only girl who ever beat Xena in a straight fight (knocking out her tooth no less!). I remember reading an interview with Kathryn Morris where she said despite all the fame and fortune Cold Case brought her she still get's recognised for this role. We never do discover where her power comes from, is a she a misguided Christian? An agent of Dahak or the Olympian gods? Another demi-god?
 
Is it odd that I never found Kathryn Morris attractive EXCEPT when dressed as a warrior chick on Xena?
 
Gabby/Autolycus? Yeah I could see it but then I could see a great many things in this series;):p

Now, Najara aka the only girl who ever beat Xena in a straight fight (knocking out her tooth no less!). I remember reading an interview with Kathryn Morris where she said despite all the fame and fortune Cold Case brought her she still get's recognised for this role. We never do discover where her power comes from, is a she a misguided Christian? An agent of Dahak or the Olympian gods? Another demi-god?

RE: Gabby and Autolycus... or since I see this only in his mind, we'll call it Autolycus and Gabrielle... :rofl: I think we now know WHY Auto DIDN'T kiss Gabby at the end of "Vanishing Act". It was because XENA was watching, and we all remember what happened when a certain someone's hand strayed too far in season 2, right? :guffaw:In ToTM's, Auto found himself ALONE with an antsy Gabby, and well lets just say he lets his mind wander as far as his hands. ;)

RE: KM's character: You have to admit, she isn't playing a wall flower here... :rommie: so I can understand people remembering her episodes.

As for Najara being the only person to ever beat Xena... I know we disagee on this, but I think it once again points to Xena BEING human, and not a demigod like Hercules. :klingon:

She can't lose... she can ONLY be beaten, which is exactly what Najara did to our WP in that Tavern. :eek:

I liked that.

Hmmm.

Sentiment sounds off, so lets rephrase. :cardie:

I liked knowing Xena COULD be beaten, more than actually seeing our WP BE beaten.

I may be evil... :p

But I'm not perverse. :evil:
 
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Is it odd that I never found Kathryn Morris attractive EXCEPT when dressed as a warrior chick on Xena?

Well, I always called her "the whitest woman on television" because I swear on "Cold Case" they never used any makeup on her. :rommie: She looked as cold as the cases she worked on. :bolian:

Or, maybe you just have a thing for swords? ;)
 
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Episode 77 season 4 # 9 "Past Imperfect"

Never mind that the conceit of the piece, that "someone was channeling Xena's old tactics to out manuever the Warrior Princess" really didn't pan out... (Fireballs and Poison Grain were the only things copied from Xena), or that Xena's STORIED battle at Corinth was turned into a loss because she withdrew from the field, I actually still liked the ep.

Why?

Well, the back story was nice, but the real reason was because Xena remembered her hard fought lesson from season 3... DON'T lie to Gabrielle.

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I loved that Xena finally (?) came clean about her premonition, her vision of the future with Gabrielle. She HAD to, or risk leaving it up to Najara to return to their lives and spill the beans.

Gabrielle's Voice: "Are you sure I was dying? Xena, the gods know-- "
(Its predawn, and the women are by the campfire, Xena's already getting dressed for the day)
Gabrielle: "-- that I have been tied to a cross before. You helped me then. What makes you think this vision is different?"
Xena: "It was so real, the way you looked, the mountain in the background. It's true, or it could be."
Gabrielle: "Well, I'm not going to believe it. It's almost dawn. Come on, better get moving if we're gonna warn the people of Actus about that army."
Xena: "No sense in us both going. Stay here. Catch up on some rest. I'll go to Actus."
Gabrielle: "No, you won't. The threat of a battle does not mean I'm going to end up like your vision. Xena, you're expecting Medusa behind every tree! Y-y-you can't look left! You can't look right! You just... "
Xena:
"All right. We're not staying long. Actus has its own army. Once we warn them, we're out of there."
Gabrielle: "That's fine. This conversation is over, right? (Xena is ignoring her as she tries to get Argo's bridle in place) Deal?"
Xena:
(Finally looks over her shoulder at Gabrielle) "Gods forbid I'd ever bring that subject up again. Hmm."

I also loved seeing season 2's Gabrielle back again. You know, the one from "The Price"... the one who learned the best way to say NO to Xena was forcefully and preferably at the top of her lungs!

They've arrived at Actus in time to warn the local commander, just minutes before firebombs are lobbed into the city/fort. Xena is hurt and flashes back to a similar attack she made on Corinth. When she comes to, Gabrielle brings her to the local Hospital where the two assess her flashback when the new military commander arrives asking for help. Its obvious to SOMEONE who's followed a certain WP for over 3 years, that Xena is still trying to leave her out of the fun.

Pasicus: "We have to have food."
Xena: "Right now, I'm more concerned about the water. Assemble all the men you can spare at the south wall. I need some engineers and the fastest horse you can find. Gabrielle, looks like this hospital could sure use your hand."
Gabrielle: "No, Xena, this hospital is well protected. It's in the center of the city. It doesn't need me hiding in it. I'll start the fire brigade."

AND she'll tag along when Xena brings a contingent of men to destroy the dam that controls water inflow to the city.

The sidetrip to the dam was primarily to show Xena that her vision wasn't a fiction. In her death scene with Gabrielle, she sees a strange 5 peaked mountain, like a hand stretching skyward. While at the dam, she sees that same mountain.

(Back at the hospital)
Gabrielle: "Here's your list of supplies. The (poisoned) grain's been locked away. The only water available is what's left in the cisterns. It's three days, tops."
Xena: (Not listening to Gabby) "Gabrielle, did you see that mountain out there?"
Gabrielle: "Yes. It's part of your vision, right?"
Xena: "What if this is the place where it happens?"
Gabrielle: "It isn't."

Its so refreshing to see Gabrielle take charge in their relationship.

Act III: Xena and Gabrielle are walking through Actus.

Gabrielle: "Xena, do you see what this is doing to you? It's just like I was talking about."
Xena: "I don't care. I want you out of here."
Gabrielle: "How?!"
Xena: "Tonight, we'll create a diversion. Pasicus can lead a party of men and... "
Gabrielle: "So, OK-- in order to save me, you're willing to risk (Points to a platoon passing them on the street) these men? Their lives mean nothing to you?!"
Xena: "All right, I will think of something else."
Gabrielle: "No, you won't. As long as you're concentrating on me, you can't think about the problem."
Xena: "I am thinking about the problem. This guy out there. He-he thinks like me, fights like me. And he's winning, just like I should have long ago."
Gabrielle: "But, you didn't!"
Xena: "Because I withdrew my army. That is not going to happen here. If I had won back then, if this man wins now then my vision of your death might come true."
Gabrielle: "I'm going onto the battlements. I'm going to reinforce the men."
Xena: "Gabrielle." (Gabby keeps walking away) Gabrielle!"
Gabrielle: (She finally turns back) "Xena, I don't believe in your vision. I can't afford to! Now, either I prove you wrong, and we go on from here, or I prove you right and we die. But either way I will not continue like this."

And this is the only thing that I'm not clear on, in this ep. Does Gabby truly realize the death vision is of her AND Xena?

In the teaser, it doesn't sound that way, as Gabby wonders "why" Xena is so sure SHE won't rescue Gabby this time like she's done in the past. (Girl, the chick is being NAILED to the cross next to you!)

Also, whenever Xena brings the vision up she talks about "your" death, not "our" death.

But in this final exchange, Gabby hints that she knows its both of them...

Gabrielle: Now, either I prove you wrong, and we go on from here, or I prove you right and we die.


... or she's assuming Xena dies in an unsuccessful attempt to save Gabrielle. (Which is a pretty good assumption, based on past performance. :techman:)

Xena: "...Even in death, Gabrielle, I will never leave you."

Was it because Xena stopped worrying about Gabrielle and started focusing on the problem, that she finally realized WHO she was fighting?

Who knows.

Afterall, this IS the same woman who outsmarted the god of war WHEN she was being driven mad by the furies. :bolian:

But once she figured out who the mastermind was, it was a failry simple thing to undermine her (pun intended).

The two friends who fought each other much of this day, finally got to fight the enemy that threatened to pull them apart.

And the episode ended the way it began... with two friends talking across a campfire...

Gabrielle: "Satrina's army sure broke up quickly."
Xena: "She promised them a destiny she couldn't fulfill."
Gabrielle: "Funny thing about destiny, you can't ignore it, can't rely on it. Alti promised you one, didn't she?"
Xena: "I was to become the destroyer of nations. It's funny how I used to look forward to those promises of hers, and every one of them ended in tragedy. Maybe that's why I fear this prophecy so much."
Gabrielle: (Gabrielle doesn't like this turn of phrase) "A prophecy? Xena, no one said anything about a prophecy. Maybe it's a warning, a sign, a guide? (Gabrielle moves to sit next to Xena, her arm around her friend's shoulder) The truth is, you don't know, like Alti didn't know, because she didn't know you."
Xena: (Looking deep into the fire, and into her past) "Borias knew. He showed me the hatred I had for myself. He showed me the love that someone could have for a child."

And the B story that has flowed throughout this ep ends,

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with a much younger Xena turning her first born son over to the Centaur Kaliapus to raise as his own.

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We watch her walk away from the baby, beating her chest as the tears fall down from her eyes.

And when we come back to the present, we see Xena still crying as Gabrielle consoles her over the dual losses of Solon and Borias. Make that a trio of losses, we can't forget young Xena!

Deleted/extended scenes.

I disagree with the narrator on this one, I prefer the G/X scene they did use over this one. ;)
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Maybe Najara is the Slayer of the age? They get visions from the Jyn/PTB too.

Past Imperfect is ok, slightly contradicts some of the previous continuity in the series. One thing, Borias' henchman (I forget his name but he turned into a super-Centaur in one ep?) is cast in a much better light in this ep, we thought he was a cold blooded murderer but actually Satrina tricks him into killing Borias thinking he's defending Xena
 
Maybe Najara is the Slayer of the age? They get visions from the Jyn/PTB too.

Past Imperfect is ok, slightly contradicts some of the previous continuity in the series. One thing, Borias' henchman (I forget his name but he turned into a super-Centaur in one ep?) is cast in a much better light in this ep, we thought he was a cold blooded murderer but actually Satrina tricks him into killing Borias thinking he's defending Xena

But are slayers evil?

Najara definately gave me an evil vibe, much more in "The Convert", but still evil.

Slayers are killing demons etc, right?

Does Buffy et al kill "normal" criminals in cold blood, like Najara does?

:confused:

ETA: Dagnin was her lieutenant that killed Borias. Although "tricked" into killing Borias, I think he purposefully taunted her with his death in "Orphan Of War".
 
episode 78 (my count) season 4 # 10 "Key to the Kingdom"

Whew. :crazy:

We finally made it to a comedy.:biggrin:

But... wait. This is definately weird. :nyah:

I mean... this has got to be the FIRST Xena-"lite" episode that was stuffed to the gills with Lucy Lawless! :confused:

And, wait a minute, where the heck was Gabrielle? I mean, at least she was heard from in Xena's auditory hallucinations in part 1 of the sin trades, and was seen on the head of a spider, and nailed to a cross in part 2 of sin trades... but here she doesn't even rate a mention?

Maybe Renee was in contract negotiations with Tapert. :devil:

ANYway....

Thank the godz for comedies.

Loved the way Meg was introduced to Autolycus, and the way he totally caved when he thought the WP had caught him redhanded :brickwall: and how ticked he was when he realized he was wrong.

Although a little Meg goes a long way with me, I did love the way she outfoxed "Auto" (Kept thinking they were calling him "Otto" the first time through), and the reason why she snatched the baby. :angel:

Here's to hoping her short stint with "Pumpkin" (Did they have pumpkins in the "old world") taught her the folly of feeding pickles to babies. :rommie:

Fav line of the night... "Just call me Pumpkin." :bolian:

Saddest? Well that's a tie. Between Meg telling Pumpkin about her childhood dreams, and Meg telling Xena she could never have a family. :wah:

Well, at least those of us who've seen season 5 know how that prediction turned out.

(Way to go, Joxer! :techman: )

So, a nice breather, but not a fav because most of the ep wasn't about Xena OR Gabrielle.

Still... at least we now know about Autolycus' fantasies, not to mention Joxer's non-Gabby related ones. ;)

Autolycus: "With a body like that, and brains like mine, there are definitely some possibilities, here."
Joxer: "Hey! That's my girl you're talkin' about."
Autolycus: "That's anybody's girl I'm talkin' about. Come on. She doesn't have an ounce of loyalty for any one man. Trust me, I know the type. I love the type."
Joxer: "Hey, Meg's different. She's also missing something."
Autolycus: "Yeah me, pressed right up against her."
Joxer: "Look, Auto! Get this through that thick, thieving skull of yours Meg has had a hard life, and she needs our help. Now I'm asking you as a friend lay off of her."

Well boys, if you can't be with the one you love, love the one you're with.

:cool:

And Sweetpea, listen to big sister Xena. She's been around even more than you have, and she knows a thing or two you don't.

(Especially about pickles. :guffaw: )
 
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You know, they're aren't any vids for "key to the kingdom"... but there IS a vid that includes Warrior Meg, and Xena... and that woman MISSING from this ep that might make a good substitute for us.

Warrior Princess... Tramp... and a Bard... :devil:
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:rommie:


"She's planning my doom, :techman: I know it!

:guffaw:
 
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Well, at least those of us who've seen season 5 know how that prediction turned out.

(Way to go, Joxer! :techman: )

So, a nice breather, but not a fav because most of the ep wasn't about Xena OR Gabrielle.

Pretty much how I see it, ok ep, nice to see the supporting characters come into their own. As for Joxer/Meg, yeah they were happy but look what happens to them, the same as what happens to everyone else who knows 'Black Widow' Gabby
 
Pretty much how I see it, ok ep, nice to see the supporting characters come into their own. As for Joxer/Meg, yeah they were happy but look what happens to them, the same as what happens to everyone else who knows 'Black Widow' Gabby


SPOILERS FOR SEASON 5

True... but he lived 28 years longer than than anyone ELSE she had a dalliance with. ;)

Plus, as Xena said in BTDT... he went "out" the way he always wanted to go out... a hero. :klingon:
 
Episode 79 season 4 #11 "Daughter of Pomira"

From episode #44 season 2's "The Price"

Xena: “They’ll (the Horde) be back. Maybe not this year, but some day.”
Gabrielle: “Can anyone stop them?”
Xena: “Yeah. It won’t be warriors. It’ll be someone like you. I just hope that wherever the Horde is from, they have a Gabrielle.”

The ep opens along the river, like "The Price" did, but there's no fishing, and there's no mistaking what territroy the two women have found themselves in.

(Flashback at LEAST 6 years ago. Its night, and Evil:evil:Xena and her troops are battling the Horde.)
Men's Voices [Yelling]: "No-o-o-o-o-o!" "Kill them all!"
Soldier: "Retreat!"
:evil:Xena: "Hold your ground! We've never retreated!"
Soldier: "We've never fought the Horde before! They'll kill us all!"
:evil:Xena: "Not you, they won't.
(:evil:Xena knifes her soldier in the abdomen, then looks around to see her army being decimated. She makes a quick decision that her dead Lieutenant can no longer enjoy and SHOUTS) Retre-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-eat!"

Its present day Greece and Xena is actually debating whether to take a shortcut through Horde territory, or to play it safe and take the longer route. :rolleyes:

From no-where a small group of Horde appear, 2 teen males, a preteen female, and a "grayhaired old male Horde appear from the tree line, carrying fowl and baskets of food they've foraged from the forest. They are relaxed and laughing, as Gabby and Xena drop from sight and plan to beat a quick retreat.

Suddenly 2 Horde axes come flying from behind Xena, and strike Gramps in the back. A crazy Greek comes running by the two women, and grabs a teen with obvious intent to scalp him.

This is too much for Xena, and she stops Milo the Greek and frees the Horde teen to join his two friends to escape back home.

What ever happened to "KILL them, KILL THEM ALL!!!!"

Oh right, Gabrielle and Kaltaka happened. ;)

An interesting followup piece from 2 years before, in which Xena creates what she had only wished for in that Greek fort.

"A Horde Gabrielle" who could negotiate a peace with the Greeks.

I liked how Xena took charge of the village's defenses, with the express intent to keep them under her control so her Horde Gabrielle, AKA the Pomira called "Pilee" could make peace between her two worlds, her two families.

I also liked how they ended the episode, allowing Pilee to return to the world she knows, allowing her the option to come back home "to visit".

It seemed strange for Xena to be "complaining" about Gabrielle's desires to push for a reunion between Vanessa/Pilee and her Greek parents, because wasn't that why Xena told the parents about Vanessa in the first place? Perhaps just hearing someone else articulate the "plan" made Xena realize how many holes there were in it.

Gabrielle: "Can you believe him?" (The guy who scalps)
Xena: "Gabrielle, I was him. If it wasn't for you and one word, I'd be there, now.
Gabrielle: "`Kaltaka.'"
Xena: "You trust your heart, and,and I respect that, but taking Vanessa could stir up a whole lotta trouble."

It was weird to hear the Warrior from "The Price", speak so eloquently of peace on the ramparts of the village's fort.

Gabrielle: "This is my fault. If I hadn't been so blind about my feelings towards Vanessa, then none of this would have happened."
Xena: "You're right."
Man's Voice: "Keep your eye on the wall!"
Xena: "It's because of you that we have this chance."
Gabrielle:
"To wage a war."
Xena: "To forge a peace."
Gabrielle: "By fighting?"
Xena: "No, by using the only tool that we have to reach them, Vanessa."

In the end, Xena even praised her friend despite Gabrielle's obvious loss of faith in diplomacy during this ep.

Xena: "Now that we can cross the river, it'll save us at least a day's travel."
Gabrielle: "Good."
Xena: "You still thinking about Raul?"
Gabrielle: "I wonder if he'll ever get past his hatred?"
Xena: "Maybe. I did. And now, thanks to you, he'll have Vanessa to help him."
Gabrielle: "Thanks to me?"
Xena: "Sure, if you hadn't insisted that we go after Vanessa, then I would never have crossed that river. It was your faith in love and family that convinced me it was right."
Gabrielle: "It was wrong."
Xena: "No, Gabrielle, because of you, Raul and Aja now know that their daughter is alive and happy instead of dead like they thought. And because of you, Vanessa now has two loving homes and, and because of you, for the first time ever, there's peace between us and the Hor-- the Pomira."
Gabrielle: "I did all that?"
Xena: "Mm-hmm."
Gabrielle: "And they call you the hero? Hmm."
Xena: "You wanna switch? Fine. You kick butt, and I'll take notes."

:bolian:

Its no "The Price", but it was an acceptable ep for a year where Gabrielle is still trying to find her way in the world.
 
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I gave Milo, the scalper short shrift in this review, so here's his final encounter with Xena.

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When will these guys EVER learn? :rolleyes:
 
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episode 80 season 4 #12 "If the Shoe fits"

Before anyone asks why there's already another comedy on the schedule, after one "not so strenuous" drama, let me just remind you what lies ahead. Not dragons, but worse. India.

Nuff said.

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This ep was funny.

I'm sorry, but it was.

It has so many funny lines, that I can't just choose one, so how about 5... to start.

Teaser:
(Xena steals the BGSB to use as a gag for a warlord, while Gabby showers. After returning to camp Xena wonders...)
Xena: "How come you let Joxer sleep in so late?"
Gabrielle: "I was topless."

Act 1:
(Xena finds the daughter of a friend, taking refuge in Aphrodite's temple, she's bringing the child home)
Xena: "Alesia-- why'd you run away?"
Alesia: "I hate my new stepmother. I wanna get rid of her so things can be the way they used to be."
Xena: "Oh."
Alesia: "I thought Aphrodite could help-- but she couldn't."
Xena: "Well, maybe I can help."
Alesia: "Really? OK-- but don't hurt her too bad."

Act 2:
(They're taking turns telling the story of Tyrella or Tyro, to Alesia)
Joxer: "OK. [Clears throat] Let's see, um. Uh OK, OK. Uh, well, uh it was the night of the big party and he was very... "
Ale sia[Interrupts]: "`He'? Don't you mean, `She'?"
Joxer: "How old are you?"
Alesia: "Seven"
Joxer: "Ya wanna be eight? It was `He'."

Act 3:
(Alesia has run away from camp, and is hanging off a cliff)
Alesia: "I got too close to the edge and fell."
Xena: "OK, well, hold on around my neck. OK. All right, I-I gotcha. Now, come on. (Xena climbs down to get the girl, then climbs back up with Alesia hanging off her back) Why did you run away?!"
Alesia: "Have you ever heard Joxer tell a story?"
Xena: "Well, that's a good point, bu.. all fairy tales have a purpose. And even when Joxer tells them there's a message there."
Alesia: "Yeah-- run."

Act 4:
(Xena has turned down Joxer's offer to replace Gabrielle after she's left)
Joxer [Raspberry]: "Sidekick. I am ten times the sidekick Gabrielle is. Now, Zantar if I ever see that big fat porky, bulbous, behemoth of a hippo I'm gonna tell him (sees Zantar) what a great guy he is."
Zantar: (Takes Joxer hostage) "Now we have a little insurance in case Xena gets in our way."
Xena: (Comes out of no-where) "Nice plan if I cared."
Joxer: "She cares. She's just kidding. Ha-ha! Ha! You're not laughing."

This ep is definately one you should watch with the transcript handy, cuz there are just too many great lines that fly under the radar. This morning the one that finally caught my ear was when Fairy godz sister Gabrielle comes back to protect Prince/Joxer with her trusty staff and exclaims, "Pardon the dishpan hands."

But along with funny lines are the interesting themes, and running gags.

In the running gags territory is the ever shrinking costume Gabrielle is wearing. After losing her blouse to the "war effort", she has to wear a sack which looks basically just that. But like Gabrielle's costume of the last 3 1/2 years, THIS starts to shrink as we see Gabby whittle first an open neck line, and then a shorter length, until we end up with a midriff baring blouse that looks like the ancient precursor of a poloshirt. :bolian:

I really enjoyed the two themes that intertwined throughout this ep.

The first was obvious, that of family.

We meet Zantar and his brothers, the traditional nuclear/blood family. Then we see the King and his new Queen, trying to meld themselves into a blended family with his daughter/her stepdaughter. We even see Aphrodite mourning the loss of her "little boy Cupid", and see her yearn for a new family... loved the "demigoddess of Puppy love" idea. We even see four versions of the Tyrella /Cinderella story and its dysfunctional families. Finally, we see another "type" of family... Xena, Gabrielle, and Joxer.

We are family:
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Remember what Xena said to Gabby in season 1?

Xena: “Gabrielle I want you to understand something. We both have families we were born into. But sometimes families change, and we have to build our own. For me, our friendship binds us closer than blood ever could.”

Easier to run: Xena Gabrelle, Joxer:
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The other theme is just as telling, that of respect. We know from watching this story for 3 1/2 years that there is a great deal of love between these two... three. But there's also a lot of "humor", and sometimes when a joke backfires there's a lot of pain.

Joxer frequently carries the brunt of this... we see it even in the version of the story HE'S telling.

Zantar/Stepfather: "Tyro the clumsy strikes again."
Tyro/Joxer: "It was an accident."
Pelio/Stepbrother: "You were the accident."

Xena isn't exempt in this department as we discover while she's trying to cook the fish she just caught.

Gabrielle's Voice: "Xena, give me the pan, before you hurt someone."

Was Gabby referring to Xena's "skill" as a cook, or was she referring to "A Day in the Life" when Xena used the pan as a weapon. We'll never know, since both are equally vaild. ;)

But the one person who's closest to Xena is the one who gets the majority of Xena's "wit". And after 3 1/2 years of it... she's getting tired.

Gabrielle: "After all we've been through, that's what you think of me? The fairy gods-sister of dishes? Xena, that's my only use to you?"
Xena: "Oh, come on. It was just a story. I just meant we were like family, and in a family..."
Gabrielle: "You have no idea how useful I am. I'm out of here, that's it. I need space." (hands her pack to Xena, and walks away)
Xena: "Gabrielle... "
Gabrielle: "Doh!" (keeps walking, till she disappears down the trail)
Xena: (Trying to reassure Alesia) "Oh she'll she'll be back. She does this all the time. (Trying to reassure herself) Right, Joxer? (Finding no reassurance) She's just crazy. (For the first time in 3 1/2 years, she looks uncertain) Gabrielle?!"
Alesia: (Prescient) "This isn't going to have a happy ending, is it?"
Xena: "Well... "

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I liked that Gabrielle didn't just stalk off into the woods to mope. The woman was on a mission, and like all good missions/fables, it taught her something about herself in the process.

At Aphrodite's "outdoor" temple.

Gabrielle: "I want you to leave Alesia alone."
Aphrodite: "She came to me. You heard what she said. She hates her family."
Gabrielle: "All I see is this confused, little girl. She doesn't realize how much she misses her family all these people who love her. If you don't stop meddling, you're going to break them up."

Like I said, it was nice to see that Aphrodite wasn't the only one listening to that tirade.


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Xena: "Gabrielle, why'd you come back?"
Gabrielle: "It was what you said about being a family. I realized that every family has their problems. But what's important is that we stay together. We work it out."

:bolian:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gdjWq7chkU
 
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In "If The Shoe Fits" we see 4 versions of the same story, depending on who's telling it.

These 2 vids aren't "about" the ep, but they do a similar thing, tell the same story from 2 different points of view.

Enjoy.

Gabrielle as "The Girl Next Door"...
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Xena as "The Girl Next Door"...
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1:41 shows Gabby as "The Fairy Gods-sister" and Xena as "Tyrella" from Xena's version of the fairytale.

Both vids also foreshadow the "next" ep on the schedule, but thats for later. ;)
 
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Daughter of Pomira-ok ep, shows how much Xena has advanced in the last few years, from 'Kill them all' to peacemaker. the Alamo to Dances with Wolves

If the Shoe Fits-love Aphrodtie and she's at her best here, especially the mirror scene (interesting to compare it to Cordy in the final ep of season 3 Angel). For basically a kids ep we have some fairly saucy 'You scratch my back' humour.
Frankly the more Gabby flesh on display the better:bolian: Interesting take on the 3 different Cinders, especially Joxer's who fits the role best.

Have to warn you, not even going to review the India arc I hate the so much. See you for The Play's the Thing
 
Daughter of Pomira-ok ep, shows how much Xena has advanced in the last few years, from 'Kill them all' to peacemaker. the Alamo to Dances with Wolves

If the Shoe Fits-love Aphrodtie and she's at her best here, especially the mirror scene (interesting to compare it to Cordy in the final ep of season 3 Angel). For basically a kids ep we have some fairly saucy 'You scratch my back' humour.



Frankly the more Gabby flesh on display the better:bolian:


Interesting take on the 3 different Cinders, especially Joxer's who fits the role best.

Have to warn you, not even going to review the India arc I hate the so much. See you for The Play's the Thing

Hmmm, does that mean you are skipping "Paradise Found" which has significant Gabby flesh in it? :devil:

As for "The Play's the Thing"... I think I hate it more than "Married with Fishsticks" and "Vanishing Act" combined.:ack: But will discuss that when it comes. ;)
 
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