Any reason why Disco isn't 4K?

[Red Panda]

I'm with @Tuskin38 here.

Even on the shittiest display, you can tell the difference between 4k and 1080p.

Anyone seriously claiming otherwise needs to visit https://www.specsavers.co.uk/eye-health/book-an-eye-test STAT!

 

[Ovation]

I'm with @Tuskin38 here.

Even on the shittiest display, you can tell the difference between 4k and 1080p.

Anyone seriously claiming otherwise needs to visit https://www.specsavers.co.uk/eye-health/book-an-eye-test STAT!

You can be wrong together then. Physics trumps anecdotes.

 

[Reyman]

I'm with @Tuskin38 here.

Even on the shittiest display, you can tell the difference between 4k and 1080p.

Anyone seriously claiming otherwise needs to visit https://www.specsavers.co.uk/eye-health/book-an-eye-test STAT!

Depends how close you are to the screen.

 

[Red Panda]

Depends how close you are to the screen.

To be fair, I have a 65" TV.

 

[Ovation]

For a 65 inch TV you need to be about 48 inches away from the screen to fully resolve the 4K resolution and no more than 95 inches from the screen to start seeing some improvement over 1080p—based on resolution alone.

 

[Red Panda]

For a 65 inch TV you need to be about 48 inches away from the screen to fully resolve the 4K resolution and no more than 95 inches from the screen to start seeing some improvement over 1080p—based on resolution alone.

I think I am around that. My home cinema has the seats quite close, within the "triangle" for best viewing, and I all extra bells and whistles on the TV turned off, except for HDR and one dynamic setting to remaster colours. It doesn't impact resolution, though I upscale through my AVR.

 

[Ovation]

If you’re that close then you can see a difference in resolution. But you are in a small minority regarding seating distance.

Depending on your display, you likely benefit from a greater bit depth panel than typical of 1080p displays and more advanced scaling capabilities. You should test the scaling of your display against your AVR. Chances are the TV will be better at it (unless you have one of the increasingly rare recent AVRs that still includes top notch scaling).

 

[Red Panda]

My AVR is a Yamaha 1080. It seems to do all right upscaling. Easier to just have my stuff in the AVR and just one cable to the TV.

 

[Ovation]

My AVR is a Yamaha 1080. It seems to do all right upscaling. Easier to just have my stuff in the AVR and just one cable to the TV.

I have an earlier version of the same AVR. I used to have it scale for my previous projector but when I replaced the latter a couple of years ago I found my new one is better at scaling than my Yamaha. However, yours is very recent so I see no reason for you to change. Enjoy.

 

[ATimson]

As for your 1080p vs 4K images on your display, using the 4K display will NOT give you an equal comparison. Your 4K display has a fixed resolution and must scale up your 1080p image. This invariably introduces scaling artefacts—unavoidable though variable according to the quality of the display’s scaling ability.

There shouldn't be any scaling artifacts - 4K is an integer multiple of 1080p, so the display can just do pixel doubling, artifact-free.

 

[Ovation]

There shouldn't be any scaling artifacts - 4K is an integer multiple of 1080p, so the display can just do pixel doubling, artifact-free.

Except no display tested for that ever earns a perfect score (rtings.com is a good place to check). And scaling is one aspect that differentiates displays from each other.

 

[norse_sage]

Occasional poster here, I actually came here looking for just this.
Was researching the possibilities of getting season one of Discovery on 4K Blu-ray in a Black Friday deal, when I first discovered that there was no 4K Blu-ray deal to be had, and secondly that there was no 4K Blu-ray release period.

I gotta say, that is pretty lame. Westworld season 1 in 4K is amazing, so Game of Thrones. A High end series like Star Trek Discovery by rights should be out on 4K Blu-ray. What a waste of opportunity.

 

[jefferiestubes8]

sno 4K Blu-ray release period.

agreed. As I already mentioned. Shot in 2.8k and 1080p HD finish assumed.
If they finished in 4k they could have done a UHD Blu-ray 4k re-release in 2020 as 3 seasons.
we are talking about CBS here who only has DVD as a category not even Blu-ray on their CBS Store.
https://www.cbsstore.com/dept/dvds?cp=67908_82469
and expensive price for season 1 Blu-ray.
Star Trek: Discovery Season 1 Blu-ray $50.99. no surprise compared to all former seasons of trek on DVD/Blu-ray releases by season.

 

[tomswift2002]

Still given that it was output, designed for, and finalized at 480P resolution; it's probably for the better that they didn't try to upscale it; and with the more modern creation software available now, it wouldn't be that hard to recreate at a better HD resolution standard. (IF CBS were inclined to green light such a project).

STTMPDE only had its CGI done in 480 interlace, not 480 progressive. It was mastered for VHS, DVD and 480i Broadcast release. And software upscaling is still really poor when you compare it to a hardware upscale.

 

[JKM]

I am disappointed to hear there is no 4k. I had the opportunity to buy the blu-ray a few weeks back but declined to do so expecting there to be a 4k version. I have a 65 inch UHD Curved tv and sit pretty close to it so I always notice the difference between blue ray and 4k. Guess I'll just wait until they do release it. I'm not into owning multiple copies.

 

[Tuskin38]

Guess I'll just wait until they do release it. I'm not into owning multiple copies.

It wasn't made for 4k, so I wouldn't expect a 4k release.

 

[Reyman]

I am disappointed to hear there is no 4k. I had the opportunity to buy the blu-ray a few weeks back but declined to do so expecting there to be a 4k version. I have a 65 inch UHD Curved tv and sit pretty close to it so I always notice the difference between blue ray and 4k. Guess I'll just wait until they do release it. I'm not into owning multiple copies.

As mentioned a 4K release is unlikely.

The blu ray is a mixed bag in terms of picture quality. Some parts look incredible and almost on par with the look and feel of a 4k UHD, whilst other parts look pretty look abysmal.

If a 4K UHD is ever released then except the good bits to look better and the bad bits to look worse.

If they get it all fixed for season 2 and release it in 4K then it could end up being something visually really special.

 

[JKM]

I'm still okay with that. Unless it improves, the next season looks a little more promising.

 

[Cap.T]

BTW: Just like the first season the second season is NOT streaming in 4K on Netflix. It's streaming in Full HD with HDR added again.

 

[Kor]

Remember that resolution is not the only difference between formats.
There are also matters of bit rate, color depth, etc., which add to the picture quality, and which somebody else can explain better than I can.

Kor