Any REALISTIC hope that 3D MOVIES may soon LOSE popularity or die out?

[Owain Taggart]

Re: Any REALISTIC hope that 3D MOVIES may soon LOSE popularity or die

Yeah, the big problem with 3DTVs is that there's no real standard at the moment. Different companies are pushing different things which aren't compatible which is then making it hard for adoption. If 3D broadcasts are made, there will need to be a standard in place that all TVs made will follow. It's just too expensive to broadcast in 3D though which is one of the underlying reasons why it won't take off. It's a niche market, and for the little return they'll get, it just won't be worth it. It's already happened with a Canadian broadcaster which I explained earlier in the thread.

Conversely as I mentioned the UK has a 3D channel, Sky 3D true it only has limited prgoramming but that is more down to the fact there isn't much out there not that there isn't demand. They've even broadcasted thinks like Football and Golf in 3D Live that is.

It's a niche market. Wether it's successful or not will depend on if the broadcasters are willing to spend so much on broadcasting something with so little return. It's not like Blueray either, where it was only a matter a time for a high-res format to be adopted. Here, it's mostly a matter of preference and if people don't want to shell out for 3DTVs, then it's less of a viable market and some broadcasters are already seeing that.

 

[Corwwyn]

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Any REALISTIC hope that 3D MOVIES may soon LOSE popularity or die

Well, yes. 3D movies (that require glasses) will fall into a screaming heap of overexploitation just like every time before, but like yo-yos, it's a fad that will keep coming back so long as there's a buck to be made from the next generation.


Outlook for 3D not that bright...

 

[Aeolusdallas]

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Forcing someone to focus at one distance, while constantly making adjustment in convergence, for well over an hour? That's invariably going to cause severe eyestrain (at the very least) in the majority of the audience.

Oddly, the majority of the audience isn't complaining.

That's because the vast majority of the public doesn't get headaches from the new 3D tech.

 

[Teelie]

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Or in my case, don't or barely see any of the depth 3D is supposed to offer. I can see the screen "pop out" occasionally but most of the time it just looks like a slightly distorted screen to me when it doesn't look like a traditional 2D film.

 

[Aeolusdallas]

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The Tingler? Was that a feature of adult film theaters?

No, Horror movies.

 

[MacLeod]

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Yeah, the big problem with 3DTVs is that there's no real standard at the moment. Different companies are pushing different things which aren't compatible which is then making it hard for adoption. If 3D broadcasts are made, there will need to be a standard in place that all TVs made will follow. It's just too expensive to broadcast in 3D though which is one of the underlying reasons why it won't take off. It's a niche market, and for the little return they'll get, it just won't be worth it. It's already happened with a Canadian broadcaster which I explained earlier in the thread.

Conversely as I mentioned the UK has a 3D channel, Sky 3D true it only has limited prgoramming but that is more down to the fact there isn't much out there not that there isn't demand. They've even broadcasted thinks like Football and Golf in 3D Live that is.

It's a niche market. Wether it's successful or not will depend on if the broadcasters are willing to spend so much on broadcasting something with so little return. It's not like Blueray either, where it was only a matter a time for a high-res format to be adopted. Here, it's mostly a matter of preference and if people don't want to shell out for 3DTVs, then it's less of a viable market and some broadcasters are already seeing that.

A quick search on 3D telly sales, seems to indicate the opposite however. True the manufacturers might be overstating.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/290191/news/early-3d-tv-sales-outpacing-hd/

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/broadcasting/news/a315382/london-2012-to-drive-3d-tv-sales-boom.html

This one however is more interesting, as it's a retailer. Saying 30% of TV sales (over 32")in the first 2 weeks of Dec 2010 where 3D ready.

30% isn't niche, so it appears at least the UK market is gearing up for 3D.

 

[Vance]

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A quick search on 3D telly sales, seems to indicate the opposite however. True the manufacturers might be overstating.

It's not that they're overstating, but it's that they're not discussing sell-through, IE, what actually gets to the consumer. Best Buy, for instance, bought a huge number (something like 100,000 sets) of 3D TVs (particularly large-screen ones) back for last year's Christmas sales. These ARE sales for the manufacturers. Trouble is, Best Buy has taken a complete bath on them and have already started doing massive returns of them to manufacturers.

To me, the more telling point is that you cannot get a 3D TV from either Wal*Mart or Target, proving that there is virtually now 'regular home' penetration for the products.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/290191/news/early-3d-tv-sales-outpacing-hd/

This article parses pretty insanely. "We're doing better with 3D TV now than HDTV did in its first six months!" That's not exactly saying much since the first six months of HDTV was stuck in format litigation and congressional politicking.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/broadcasting/news/a315382/london-2012-to-drive-3d-tv-sales-boom.html

This one is fairly self-selecting, and filled with a lot of spin. "Our NEXT TV will be 3D ready!" is a recurring mantra. But there's no comment on when that next TV is going to be. Worse, the survey is self-selected by LG, one of the companies pushing 3D Television the most. Can this article really be taken at face value? It would be like Phillip Morris surveying 2000 people about the pleasures of ciagrettes, or the DNC surveying 2000 people about Obama's job performance...

 

[MacLeod]

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^well I did point out that those first 2 links where manufactures and should be taken with a pinch of salt. But when a reatiler says 30% of the TV sold within a two week period (true leading up to xmas) then it's time to take note.

Perhaps we are seeing a divergence in trends between the US and other parts of the world. Where the US is slower to adopt the 3D format.

Wasn't the US slower to adopt Widescreen TV's (pre HD)as the norm as well?

 

[Warped9]

Re: Any REALISTIC hope that 3D MOVIES may soon LOSE popularity or die

I don't want 3D. I want better films and television programs.

 

[Vance]

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^well I did point out that those first 2 links where manufactures and should be taken with a pinch of salt. But when a reatiler says 30% of the TV sold within a two week period (true leading up to xmas) then it's time to take note.

But it's 30 percent of what which is the main question, one that goes unanswered. Frankly, I have a hard time buying that the average Londoner is spending €1000 or more on a new TV set during the economic doldrums we're all living in, particularly after having just done it for HD in slightly better times.

Wasn't the US slower to adopt Widescreen TV's (pre HD)as the norm as well?

That was largley due to broadcasting formats, though. We had an ongoing format war for some time over 1080i, 1080p, 720i, etc. and which would be the 'standard' for reception. So many people were waiting it out just to see what the hell the government was going to do. Once that got settled, HD TVs finally picked up.

 

[JarodRussell]

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[MacLeod]

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^well I did point out that those first 2 links where manufactures and should be taken with a pinch of salt. But when a reatiler says 30% of the TV sold within a two week period (true leading up to xmas) then it's time to take note.

But it's 30 percent of what which is the main question, one that goes unanswered. Frankly, I have a hard time buying that the average Londoner is spending €1000 or more on a new TV set during the economic doldrums we're all living in, particularly after having just done it for HD in slightly better times.

Wasn't the US slower to adopt Widescreen TV's (pre HD)as the norm as well?

That was largley due to broadcasting formats, though. We had an ongoing format war for some time over 1080i, 1080p, 720i, etc. and which would be the 'standard' for reception. So many people were waiting it out just to see what the hell the government was going to do. Once that got settled, HD TVs finally picked up.

30% of TV's sold by that retailer. And you're making a presumption that those people had bought a HD TV already, perhaps they were upgrading from SD to HD for the first time.

What does 1080i etc.. have to do with Widescreen SD TV's as I stated pre-HD

 

[Robert Maxwell]

Re: Any REALISTIC hope that 3D MOVIES may soon LOSE popularity or die

I don't want 3D. I want better films and television programs.

It's possible to have both.

 

[Warped9]

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I don't want 3D. I want better films and television programs.

It's possible to have both.

I'm still not interested in 3D.

Or for that matter shaky cams and other gimmicky stuff.

 

[Scrambo]

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I hope that 3D doesnt become the norm and 2D dies because there are some of us who cant see 3D. Besides that for "normal" people who can see 3D doesnt it cause headaches after pro-longed watching?

Couple of friends have complained of headaches after watching a 3D film plus people who have the new 3d ds have complained of headaches as well - been on the news.

 

[JarodRussell]

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I don't want 3D. I want better films and television programs.

It's possible to have both.

I'm still not interested in 3D.

Or for that matter shaky cams and other gimmicky stuff.

I wonder why nobody complains about the shaky cam fad.

 

[Shazam!]

Re: Any REALISTIC hope that 3D MOVIES may soon LOSE popularity or die

I haven't seen a single 3-D movie and I'm not going to until you don't have to wear dorky glasses.

 

[JarodRussell]

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[Admiral Buzzkill]

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I hope that 3D doesnt become the norm and 2D dies because there are some of us who cant see 3D. Besides that for "normal" people who can see 3D doesnt it cause headaches after pro-longed watching?

Not for the vast majority, no.

 

[The Laughing Vulcan]

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I hope that 3D doesnt become the norm and 2D dies because there are some of us who cant see 3D. Besides that for "normal" people who can see 3D doesnt it cause headaches after pro-longed watching?

Not for the vast majority, no.

I don't care if fat people can tolerate 3D or not, what about us normal people.