Another attempt at Re-animation!
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Tell me he's not a child of the 70s without telling me he's not a child of the 70s.
TAS had the same quality of animation as all the other series at that time.
Yes. But this creator is going to gain experience that will help down the line.
I applaud the effort, but it's weird. I love TAS as it was, a suspect very soon AI will be able to make it totally realistic very very soon should that be someone's goal.
omg. I love AI Elvis...that YouTube channel is going to cost my employer a lot of productivity today! LOL
This is The Chief Kahuna speakin', stardates is what Ah'm seekin', How 'bout you and I warp back to the Summer of Love? Considering some of the Elvis movies I've seen, it would be entertaining, with at least one good song. But don't expect Shakespeare.
Guys, does this mean we have to decide who in the Elvisphere would be TOS crew?
Col Tom Parker = Admiral
Elvis = Kirk
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Hanna-Barbara and most of the animation studios extant were of this or even worse quality. Stuff like Mr. Magoo and some ripoff of Wacky Racers I don't remember the name of were dreck The occasional Disney was well done, I remember being wowed by the animation in The Hobbit...at the time. It wasn't until I saw well drawn anime that my expectations went up.
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Reminds me of Quake III Arena from 1999.
Or Unreal Tournament from 1998:
Only not as rabidly-paced, noting one could otherwise write "rapidly-paced" except that's booooring...
Or Unreal Tournament from 1998:
Only not as rabidly-paced, noting one could otherwise write "rapidly-paced" except that's booooring...
The previous swing as this posted a little while back caught my fancy (not counting the added dialog, Klingon redesigns and movie music - blech).
This one doesn't. As others said, there's far too much movement. Too much effort to match the live action. I would prefer it to still look like a cartoon, with all of the attributes of the medium. Not in this style of CGI animation as much as moving drawings. Like a comic book in motion but more up to date as in the video above. That's closer to the spirit of how Filmation and the shows of those eras looked and feel newly animated Trek should stick closer to.
Also, reanimation is great when done with the right spirit, but adding in TOS music - not so much. The Filmation music was just as much a character as anything else - it was part of the pacing and identity of that show.
This is a good effort but also a case of too much effort, IMO.
Thing is with these fan re-do's - they seem to think that adding new music, voices and dialog is necessary and that what they can do will be better or more polished than work by professionals. If they would stick to simply re-animating and not embellishing, it would be lovely.
This one doesn't. As others said, there's far too much movement. Too much effort to match the live action. I would prefer it to still look like a cartoon, with all of the attributes of the medium. Not in this style of CGI animation as much as moving drawings. Like a comic book in motion but more up to date as in the video above. That's closer to the spirit of how Filmation and the shows of those eras looked and feel newly animated Trek should stick closer to.
Also, reanimation is great when done with the right spirit, but adding in TOS music - not so much. The Filmation music was just as much a character as anything else - it was part of the pacing and identity of that show.
This is a good effort but also a case of too much effort, IMO.
Thing is with these fan re-do's - they seem to think that adding new music, voices and dialog is necessary and that what they can do will be better or more polished than work by professionals. If they would stick to simply re-animating and not embellishing, it would be lovely.
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LOL, that's awesome.
I like the animation in the "More Tribbles, More Troubles" redo. It has just the right amount of movement. I don't mind the use of music cues from the original series; it gives the episode a comforting familiarity. However, the overdone pulled-focus gimmick is weird and distracting.
Well, that isn't correct. They spent as much on the animation as they did for any of their other animated productions - as little as possible.
Oh that part is easy. Just looking at the screenshot convinced me not to watch it.
I find this interesting. I'm not a TOS or TAS fan, so don't feel emotive about it.
As a species we are at an inflection point with AI and it's going to be ugly, and it's going to be a beautiful at times, but the end picture we just don't know yet.
The whole AI writing stories and creating shows is just a Black Mirror of potential right now.
This video is yes very weird. It's not going to sit well as something watchable and enjoyable.
But give it five years. Imagine a series that TOS reborn, based upon TAS voices but created with lifelike CGI.
Like gaining new episodes all these years later.
I don't know if that's good. I don't know if I really want that. But like any good Star Trek episode doesn't it make you WONDER?
As a species we are at an inflection point with AI and it's going to be ugly, and it's going to be a beautiful at times, but the end picture we just don't know yet.
The whole AI writing stories and creating shows is just a Black Mirror of potential right now.
This video is yes very weird. It's not going to sit well as something watchable and enjoyable.
But give it five years. Imagine a series that TOS reborn, based upon TAS voices but created with lifelike CGI.
Like gaining new episodes all these years later.
I don't know if that's good. I don't know if I really want that. But like any good Star Trek episode doesn't it make you WONDER?
James Cawley did this in real life
I disagree with the video creator's assessment here. The look of TAS was excellent for the time and budget. The characters looked like the actors. The Enterprise exterior was very good. The new music felt appropriate and was catchy; it became audio comfort food as did that of the live-action series. What actually "held back" TAS (in my, perhaps unpopular, opinion) was the lack of appropriate creative restraint.
Gerrold and Fontana seemed to revel in the absolute freedom of the animation medium, and this led to such artistic self-indulgence and intentional envelope-pushing that it became implausible and sometimes even just plain idiotic in the context of the established Star Trek universe. Shrink the crew, make them giants, turn them into toddlers, make time run backwards in an utterly nonsensical way, have giant walking dandelions and an alien that explodes his body into magically floating arms and legs... even as a kid I felt like the nonsense dial was turned up to 11, and then compounded with some pretty bad dialog.
There is one great episode (Yesteryear, of course) and it is truly excellent. The others, in general, have some cool things to offer, for sure -- an aqua-shuttlecraft, a Comanche-descent crewman, the grain ships, another visit from Roger Carmel, and so on -- but they're also chock-full of elements on The Alternative Factor level of incomprehensibility or poor judgement. A few are watchable but more than half of the entire series is very cringy, and this isn't the look of the show to blame, it's all the creative decisions made in story development, dialog, character interaction....
Other than the story told in Yesteryear, the best things about TAS are the visuals, the music, and the voices of (most of) the original cast. So I don't understand the video creator's starting premise at all. The only things that really need "fixing" in the visuals are the odd choices like all the pink & purple everywhere and the Orions looking like the worst examples of supervillain minion action figures.
I disagree that Yesteryear is the only great episode.
Beyond the Farthest Star
One of Our Planets is Missing
The Survivor
The Jihad
Pirates of Orion
Eye of the Beholder
The Slaver Weapon
Albatross
These are all top class stories. Not just episodes with "cool things" but legitimately good Star Trek scripts.
I may have even left off one or two.
The same starting premise that drove CBS/Paramount to create new CGI effects for the original series - the make TAS more accessible for modern audiences. To preserve TAS rather than let it be the "cringe" footnote in Star Trek history. The animation style of TAS is pretty tough for new audiences to get past to enjoy the stories. Fans like us who saw it first run and like it visually as is aren't really the main target.
I would add The Time Trap to your excellent list.
As for the rest of the thread . . . oof. And I don't mean the video itself, which was a harmless bit of fun.
