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Anime is dying

Since this has kind of turned into the Anime thread I'll just post this here. I've recently been watching Eden of the East, or as I like to call it, Cellphones: The Series. Seriously, almost every scene involves a cell phone in some way. It's actually a pretty good show, just weirdly cellphone-obsessive.


For a second I thought you were talking about

Keitai Sousakan







Talking Cellphones that fight!

Only in japan could this get made - jeez. :)

That's actually the appeal of anime and manga in a nutshell. Only in Japan could you find stories like this being created. (Well, in Korea to, but mostly Japan.)
 
What on Earth was with Bandai Japan making Bandai US bid on its products? :wtf: Is there something in Japanese businesses I've missed?
 
What on Earth was with Bandai Japan making Bandai US bid on its products? :wtf: Is there something in Japanese businesses I've missed?
They have a weird mindset that westerners don't understand the Japanese and vice versa, so they think that gives them license to not think about selling their products beyond Japan and thus they can do whatever they want.

It applies to video games as well.
 
It's also because the Japanese are terrified of reverse-importation. Japanese pricing and episode per DVD count is absolutely atrocious by western standards of release. I'm talking about the Yen equivalent of $50 for a DVD with only one or two episodes on it or $300-400 for a complete set. Thus the wallet raping Japanese industry naturally fears Japanese customers will just go online to US websites and buy the whole series for far less and cut them out of the profit. So they impose all kinds silly rules and regulations on the foreign markets for anime, instead of solving the problem at home by adopting a better release scheme. :lol:

For instance a lot of anime can't/won't be released here until the Japanese versions have been out for a while. This is generally why you see a huge 6 month-a couple years gaps between when the series actually aired and when we get a physical DVD/BD release of it.
 
It's also because the Japanese are terrified of reverse-importation. Japanese pricing and episode per DVD count is absolutely atrocious by western standards of release. I'm talking about the Yen equivalent of $50 for a DVD with only one or two episodes on it or $300-400 for a complete set. Thus the wallet raping Japanese industry naturally fears Japanese customers will just go online to US websites and buy the whole series for far less and cut them out of the profit. So they impose all kinds silly rules and regulations on the foreign markets for anime, instead of solving the problem at home by adopting a better release scheme. :lol:

For instance a lot of anime can't/won't be released here until the Japanese versions have been out for a while. This is generally why you see a huge 6 month-a couple years gaps between when the series actually aired and when we get a physical DVD/BD release of it.
You could just as easily be talking about the US here.
 
Oh? How's that? Do you get anime for cheaper and more episodes per disc in Australia or are you talking about time lag for getting US television?
 
Way too much high school crap and other more of the same during the last couple of years.

The last newer shows I actually enjoyed were Black Lagoon, Macross Frontier, Code Geass and Eden of the East, along with all of their related movies.

Then again, I'm probably part of a minority, since I don't care about dubs and my interests are shifting towards live action shows/movies from Japan, Korea, Hong Kong and Taiwan anyway (in part, due to the lack of interesting anime entertainment).
 
ADV may have pulled something, but Funimation will have a lot of trouble trying to prove it and hold Neo-ADV responsible for it since they're a different company now, owned by different people. I doubt they're going to get their money.
 
But if they get hold of the right documents, proving that ADV formed a new company in order to get out of it... The jury may not take kindly to that.
 
It'll be up to Funimation's lawyers to prove that ADV still exists as these other companies, something that Funimation has been claiming from day one.
 
And again, that's if they can find the right documentation. All it takes is the right set of emails proving that ADV acted in bad faith.
 
Which begs the question "Did ADV really act in bad faith or is Funimation just saying they did?" Companies restructuring and rebranding themselves as new companies is nothing new. When ADV folded, it publicly announced that any debts it had were transferred to the company that had acquired its former assets.
http://www.advfilms.com/

What makes Funimation's lawsuit a bit tricky is that it's actually trying to obtain payment that was owed to someone else (the ARM Corporation). Funimation claims they are a creditor to ARM, and insists that if ADV owes ARM, Funimation is entitled to go after ADV (even if ADV is no longer a company, but just a name).

Muddying the situation further is that Funimation is suing companies that weren't around when they made their arrangement with ARM and thus had no contract with ARM.
 
Oh? How's that? Do you get anime for cheaper and more episodes per disc in Australia or are you talking about time lag for getting US television?
Bit of both really.

But what I was really getting at is the protectivist attitude of US TV. You have one set of rules for US made shows, another for foreign made series (I don't know why it just went into italics, I can't fix it for some reason).
 
Oh? How's that? Do you get anime for cheaper and more episodes per disc in Australia or are you talking about time lag for getting US television?
Bit of both really.

But what I was really getting at is the protectivist attitude of US TV. You have one set of rules for US made shows, another for foreign made series
What are you referring to exactly?
Okay as an explanation here how Robotech came about.
Back in the 80's Harmony Gold pulled off a coup when they secured the english language rights to Macross, which was the hottest property in Japan at the time. All they needed was the loan from the bank to close the deal. The bank would only do this if their was a syndication deal, so now we get to the sticky bit.

HG was denied syndication for Macross! Why? At 36 episodes it was too short! A foreign made 'toon needs to be at least 60 episodes long to get a syndication deal, where as the first 13 episode season of TMNT (which was aweful) got green lit first try on the strength of the pilot alone!

The rest as they say is history, HG aquired the rights to two other shows (Super Dimension Cavalry Southern Cross & Genesis Climber MOSPEADA), edited them together to form one long 85 ep series and got their deal.
 
Bit of both really.

But what I was really getting at is the protectivist attitude of US TV. You have one set of rules for US made shows, another for foreign made series
What are you referring to exactly?
Okay as an explanation here how Robotech came about.
Back in the 80's Harmony Gold pulled off a coup when they secured the english language rights to Macross, which was the hottest property in Japan at the time. All they needed was the loan from the bank to close the deal. The bank would only do this if their was a syndication deal, so now we get to the sticky bit.

HG was denied syndication for Macross! Why? At 36 episodes it was too short! A foreign made 'toon needs to be at least 60 episodes long to get a syndication deal, where as the first 13 episode season of TMNT (which was aweful) got green lit first try on the strength of the pilot alone!

The rest as they say is history, HG aquired the rights to two other shows (Super Dimension Cavalry Southern Cross & Genesis Climber MOSPEADA), edited them together to form one long 85 ep series and got their deal.
I don't think the whole Robotech thing was result of the shows comprising it being foreign. It seems to me that since TMNT was an American show, they could just keep ordering more episodes until it stopped being profitable, while the finished Japanese shows, with their set episode runs, weren't as competitive since there couldn't be more if it turned out to be a success.

Besides, I don't think that kind of thing really applies to the modern market. The biggest barrier to non-American/Canadian cartoons getting on TV here is dubbing costs, content, and marketing (especially for anime, which has been stigmatized as hell over here).
 
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