Animaniacs Reboot in the Works

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  1. JD

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    That's the best news I'll hear all week and it's only Tuesday. I only hope it retains the adult edge that the original had.

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    Ugh. Based off the other rebooted cartoons that have been getting produced recently (like Powerpuff Girls, DuckTales, etc) this is probably going to be another cheap, quickly crapped out "modern" cartoon that completely misses the point of the old show. This is definitely one of the stupidest things to reboot I've heard of in awhile, hopefully it doesn't end up happening.
     
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    I like to be optimistic.
     
  6. kirk55555

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    I prefer to be more realistic, personally. Cartoon reboots are usually terrible, and Animaniacs was pretty much perfect for what it was. Even if 100% of the people involved with the original show (who are still around and working in the industry) got together and tried to do more of it, they probably wouldn't succeed. I think the odds are very much against a rebooted Animaniacs being anywhere close to good.
     
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    Just one more thing in the ever growing list of things that I disagree with you about, Kirk.
     
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    I'll certainly give this a whirl.
     
  9. Allyn Gibson

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    I don't need a reboot, per se. Just more of the same, with the same voice cast, in the same visual style, with 2018-9 pop culture references. If the Warner Brothers and the Warner Sister Dot skewer Netflix, Donald Trump, Game of Thrones, the iPhone, Siri, Coldplay, Beyonce, and so on, I'll be perfectly happy with that. :)
     
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    Though a different studio and property, but I can't help thinking about the "PowerPuff Girls". Ms. Bellum, Mayor Mayer's Jessica Rabbit-esque personal assistant was dropped from the current version of the series. Given the current political climate, I'm concerned the "sly edge" that made the original Animaniacs distinctive will be excised. Meaning, no Minerva Mink, no Hello Nurse, no innuendo.
     
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    Honestly, the only parts of Animaniacs I liked were the Warner Siblings themselves and Pinky and the Brain. And the ones with Bernadette Peters as the singing cat were cool -- she had a really gorgeous voice. The other segments were just formulaic, one-joke premises that played out pretty much exactly the same each time -- exactly the opposite of the unpredictability promised by the theme lyrics, "The writers flipped, we have no script." I particularly hated Chicken Boo, which was always exactly the same joke with exactly the same unfunny outcome, and always left me wondering what the hell the point was supposed to be. I also hated Goodfeathers, which was just a repetitive set of references to catchphrases and characters from a specific gangster movie that none of the kids in the audience would have been likely to see, so that it came off more as a self-indulgent exercise by its makers.

    Well, Buttons and Mindy was sort of half and half. The stuff in the middle avoided formula -- or rather, it was the kind of formula where the premise is always the same (dog tries to save baby from disaster and gets trashed, a variant on a classic formula used by Popeye, Tom & Jerry, and others) but is open-ended enough to allow endless variation in the details. The problem is that the opening and closing segments of every cartoon were infuriatingly repetitive, always playing out virtually the exact same verbatim dialogue, and that quickly wore out its welcome.
     
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    Isn't this show a little too politically incorrect for today's audiences though? I've called Animaniacs South Park before South Park became cool. I guess if they reboot Duck Tales, anything is possible.

    I know it will never happen, but I would love the original Darkwing Duck to come back. That was a fun show.
     
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    It was okay, but it was basically a knockoff of Chuck Jones's "Daffy Duck as inept hero" cartoons (Stupor Duck, The Scarlet Pumpernickel, Duck Dodgers, etc.) with the title duck's feathers palette-swapped and his personality domesticated somewhat to fit Disney standards. Even its style of comedy was more Warner Bros. than Disney, more irreverent and slapsticky and with more Tex Avery-esque or Jones-esque cartoon physics and character distortions.
     
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    I never saw any of that. What I took away from Darkwing Duck was it was a nice spin off from Duck Tales.
     
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    As much as I wouldn't want the show to lose it's adult edge, it wasn't all "Hello Nurse" and "Goodnight, everybody!" I also would hate to see it lose the segments that were so entertainingly educational. Here are three of my favorite bits...







    I once had the pleasure to have a brief conversation with Rob Paulson, and he told me that after rehersing in the mirror for weeks, he nailed Yakko's World in ONE TAKE!

    And just because, here is Maurice LaMarche and Rob Paulson reading from the script of Pulp Fiction as Pinky and the Brain...:lol:

     
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    The showrunner of Darkwing said in an interview a while back that it wasn't intended to be in continuity with DuckTales, even though it shared the characters of Launchpad and GizmoDuck. And I always figured as much -- since, as I said, it was in more of a Looney Tunes-style universe than a Carl Barks-style universe. DuckTales tended more toward the kind of naturalism-with-talking-animals approach Walt Disney favored; if Scrooge McDuck fell out of a plane, it was implicit that he'd be in real trouble if he hit the ground. But if Darkwing fell out of a plane, he'd hit the ground, turn into an accordion, slink offscreen, and be fine by the next scene. The two shows never felt to me like they shared a reality.

    Which, mind you, is not a criticism, aside from the imitativeness. I've always been more a Warner Bros. fan than a Disney fan. I took some smug satisfaction in the fact that Disney had reached the point of following WB's lead instead of being the one everyone else imitated. (As seen also in Disney doing Gargoyles to follow Batman: The Animated Series' lead by doing a serious, dark, smart adventure show instead of the comedy it was originally conceived to be. Which turned out superbly, of course, in large part because of the Batman: TAS veterans they hired to make it.)
     
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    I didn't mind Goodfeathers, but it was one-note and you had to be at least passingly familiar with what it was parodying. I always thought Slappy Squirrel was garbage of the worst sort; the titular character was unpleasant and unfunny, and I never, ever cared. Chicken Boo, for me, was an absurdist art piece that wouldn't have been out of place on Monty Python.

    What I'd like to see in a relaunched Animaniacs is a couple of the concepts retired (or downplayed) like Slappy Squirrel and a few new ones developed.
     
  18. Christopher

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    Monty Python would've done it better. The fundamental problem with Chicken Boo was that it was structured backwards. It began with the punch line -- the giant chicken passes for human and everyone somehow falls for it -- and then introduced a crisis (the chicken's discovery and persecution) that was never resolved, so that the cartoon just petered out on an unfunny and depressing note that was exactly the same in every damn cartoon, just like so many of the other infuriatingly repetitive bits on Animaniacs. (And it was a dumb song, too.)

    I think you could've gotten one decent cartoon out of the premise if it had been inverted -- say, a giant chicken is born on the farm, is ostracized by the other chickens, then through a series of unlikely accidents ends up in civilization and wearing human clothes and finds itself accepted as a person despite being just an ordinary chicken in every respect except size. And the cartoon ends, rather than begins, with the chicken being inexplicably successful in its human persona and the easily fooled masses ignoring the lone naysayer insisting it's just a giant chicken, because that's a ridiculous enough situation to be the punch line.


    Even the Warner sibling cartoons were a mixed bag, but at their best they could be very funny, sort of the Marx Brothers as done by Tex Avery or Bob Clampett. I particularly liked the "Anvilania" cartoon that was a direct homage to the Marx Brothers (particularly Duck Soup). But they could do a lot of different styles of humor, and that versatility was a refreshing change from the plodding repetitiveness of most of the show. "Chairman of the Bored," with Ben Stein's rambling but surprisingly coherent shaggy-dog anecdote about cheese balls and Bob Barker, is a classic, combining the old Tex Avery formula of a ubiquitous pursuer/nuisance that the protagonist can't escape with a more modern, verbal sort of humor.

    Oddly, Pinky and the Brain never felt repetitive to me despite its formulaic aspects. True, every cartoon ended with the same line, but it wasn't dragged out as much as in Buttons & Mindy. And there was the recurring formula of "Are you pondering what I'm pondering?" but that worked better than most catchprase gags because it was only the setup that repeated, while the punchline was always different. And the various schemes Brain tried were so wildly different and unpredictable that it stayed fresh. Plus the characters, and the performances by Maurice LaMarche and Rob Paulsen, were just so much more entertaining than the pigeons or the squirrels or whoever. It's no wonder P&tB was the only segment that got its own spinoff. Honestly, I'd rather see a revival of just that.
     
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    I love learning about stuff like this. I know I'm biased, but I'm so glad I was a kid around this time when we had some quality shows as part of a weekday line up.
     
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    And definitely no "Slappy Squirrel":

    ^^^
    I loved this one.