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Andy Probert releases prelim plans for USS Ambassador kit!

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Interesting! Even though I'd seen the outlines of the upper-surface ribs, for whatever reason I didn't anticipate the flat "brim" to be this wide. I like it!
 
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I am enjoying this thread and download every update keep the good work up
 
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FalTorPan said:
Interesting! Even though I'd seen the outlines of the upper-surface ribs, for whatever reason I didn't anticipate the flat "brim" to be this wide. I like it!
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Thanx.

The painting's engineering hull-top is a lot higher and does indeed slope out almost right to the edge. When I drew the side elevation, I had it in mind that the same area was totally flat on the preceding Class: Excelsior, so I lowered the dorsal line to be more 'in-between' the 'B' & 'D'. When I lofted a first version of that top (the one no one saw), it looked too broad & flat, so I re-drew the ribs with a wider edge (brim) visually narrowing the center area.

Also, that flat edge makes it even more in-betweener-ish.

Andrew-
 
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She's coming along quite nicely, nice ship, don't forget to point out where the bowling alley and the coffee machine is located... ;)
 
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Something about this Ambassador CG model has been bothering me for the last couple of months, and I have only just now figured out what the hell it is. Mr. Probert, could you please tell us that the revolting Soviet military-inspired bile green color of the hull is only a temporary placeholder? :(

TGT
 
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I can say I am happy with the results so far.
 
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The God Thing said:
Something about this Ambassador CG model has been bothering me for the last couple of months, and I have only just now figured out what the hell it is. Mr. Probert, could you please tell us that the revolting Soviet military-inspired bile green color of the hull is only a temporary placeholder? :(

TGT
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It looks more like a blue/gray to me. Methinks the bile color is a mere byproduct of the lighting (or shading) effects and should be considered a temporary placeholder. Note that the most obvious offenders are the structural pieces inside the model. :vulcan:
 
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^ Actually, the hull does appear an inoffensive shade of blue/gray on the Apple MacBook I am using right now, as opposed to the bile green on my Windows and Linux machines. It must be time to re-calibrate their displays. Pliz ignore my previous post, Mr. Probert. :o

TGT
 
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Looks exactly like "duck egg blue" which is appropriate for a TNG-era ship, I think.
 
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Cary L. Brown said:
Looks exactly like "duck egg blue" which is appropriate for a TNG-era ship, I think.
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I agree.

Andrew-
 
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If memory serves, and Andrew, please correct me if I'm misstating your perspective here, the idea for the "duck egg blue" was due to (1) Andrew's idea that the hull was some form of ceramic composite, not metal, and (2) the fact that, in many eps of TOS, the original ship appeared to be a similar color (albeit due to lighting and film stock more than due to actual painted color).

This is one of those "should it look like the model or should it look like the images on screen" matters. And it's a real issue... since models shot and processed using optical printers tended to have their colors "wash out" (making a brighty colored model appear much more grayish). Watch early eps of TNG and the model doesn't appear this blueish on-screen. HOWEVER, the actual physical model was almost exactly the color you see on this one (I took ages mixing just the right combination of paints to match this once upon a time myself... so I recognize it quite clearly!)

Thoughts? Comments?
 
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I too would prefare light battlship grey with dark Battleship gray highlights a la Enterprise E
 
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Cary L. Brown said:
If memory serves, the idea for the "duck egg blue" was due to (1) Andrew's idea that the hull was some form of ceramic composite, not metal, and (2) the fact that, in many eps of TOS, the original ship appeared to be a similar color due to lighting and film stock.
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When TNG was in pre-production, there was a lot of anxiety among fans that we were going to 'replace' their Star Trek with something totally different. To help ease part of that, I specified color tones that would be reminiscent of the average TOS Enterprise coloring, combining a blue & green which you may review HERE And, yes, my starships are not steel, they're made with ceramics & plastics.

This is one of those "should it look like the model or like the images on screen" matters. And it's a real issue... since models shot and processed using optical printers tended to have their colors "wash out" (making a brighty colored model appear much more grayish). Watch early eps of TNG and the model doesn't appear this blueish on-screen. HOWEVER, the actual physical model was almost exactly the color you see on this one (I took ages mixing just the right combination of paints to match this once upon a time myself... so I recognize it quite clearly!)
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Hollywood people will constantly remind you that movie-making is a "collaborative" business. In other words, once it leaves my hands, it's fair game for whatever anyone wants to do with it, right up to release time. That's why the TMP Long-range Shuttle is grey, and that's why the E-D is grey.... whateverrr.

Read more about it on FalTorPan's website

Andrew-
 
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regemet said:
I too would prefare light battlship grey with dark Battleship gray highlights a la Enterprise E
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My feelings will not be hurt if people choose to paint their models in a scheme that is more pleasing to them... seriously.

These kits are being offered in response to fans telling me they would've preferred certain earlier concepts over certain final results. And eventually, this line will expand to include a whole collection of new original designs..... franchise free.

Meanwhile, just have fun with it...

Andrew-
 
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regemet said:
I too would prefare light battlship grey with dark Battleship gray highlights a la Enterprise E
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Well, you can paint the model whatever color ya please. I'm currently working on a 1/2500 E-C and I'm using dark gull gray and battleship gray; to me, it looks better than the duck egg blue.

For this ship, I'd probably use a light gull gray with dark gull gray highlights - something between the on-screen Excelsior and Galaxy colors. Of course, I'd love an aztec painting pattern...

Oh, and is there any word on what scale this beauty will be available in? And any thoughts on a price?

ETA: Probert beat me to it. :p
 
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Turbo said:
Oh, and is there any word on what scale this beauty will be available in?
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"At last we're in the initial phases of developing the Ambassador Class Starship, to be offered initially in 1:1400 scale."

Probert said:
When TNG was in pre-production, there was a lot of anxiety among fans that we were going to 'replace' their Star Trek with something totally different. To help ease part of that, I specified color tones that would be reminiscent of the average TOS Enterprise coloring, combining a blue & green which you may review HERE And, yes, my starships are not steel, they're made with ceramics & plastics.
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So the pearlescent lacquer finish of the TMP Refit was never an option for ST:TNG's Enterprise-D from a production standpoint or an aesthetic one? :)

TGT
 
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