android, hologram, or other AI in principle cast on next TV series

<-- oh the cyborg guy. Yes he could be an interesting character.

 

I would like to see more non-humanoid characters take a leading role in a series. I think the whole 'human crew saves the day' mentality kind of ignores the idea that other species may have more to offer. -Just a thought.

 

humanoid aliens taking the lead is possible

but non humanoids in a leading role is never gonna happen in a tv show

 

For Rommie in Andromeda
specifically

in terms of AI as a principle character but not as avatar
or GERTY 3000, from the film Moon (2009)
or EDI, enhanced defense intelligence the AI of theNormandy SR-2 in the Mass Effect 2 videogame
or GLaDOS from Portal 2 videogame
or Lucille – AI aboard Mars-1 in Red Planet (2000)


Trek TV has already done android as Data, 3-D holographic projection as EMH in VOY. I don't believe they've done AI 2-D monitors. Maybe that would be more of a ship's computer as AI to interact with? An avatar may sound interesting and could be played by a real actor rather than costly CGI. I would like a CGI model character but the uncanny valley you get in CGI animated films like

as well as videogames during cinematics will make viewers unhappy as well has the cost involved for the producers would limit the character's screen time and thus the character's ability to really develop on a Trek TV series.

Personally I'd like to see a 3-D holographic projection character that would be partially transparent. To accomplish this that actor portraying the character would need to be shot on greenscreen and composited done by visual effects (VFX) in with some visible transparency. To do this economically the shot would have to be a locked off camera shot rather than during an action sequence handheld as tracking the motion adds to the time and cost involved for each VFX shot including the character.

 

Non-humanoid digital AI. It's the one direction we haven't really featured greatly in Star Trek. If the shtick is that they keep expanding or advancing their AI, in androids, machines, & holograms, then perhaps there will be a time when the ship itself is an intelligent creature. That's gotta be worth some thought

 

A new series would probably want to steer away from AI rights issues but it'd be cool to have an AI computer interface like in Interstellar.

 

I think a recognised AI would have established rights in the Trek universe, with no need to drag it through the courts.

 

Now is a good time to see what kind of artificial character people want in the new Trek series. If you haven't voted please do.

 

A primitive A.I could be used for comic relief as well as story fodder.

 

Yeah, it's awesome how he stood there and punched buttons and occasionally said something.

 

How about a standard issue AI... The Ship carries, a series of bodies, and the AI is backed up at regular intervals.. so the AI could be a cross between Red Shirt, But maybe even Mission adaptable.... so the AI could be uploaded into a probe, and sent into a gaseous anomaly ...

The other thing, what about the singularity... What about people becoming machines... that might be interesting too....

 

Ask Dennis and Robert Hewett Wolfe about their trans Human Authorities approach. You'll probably get similar answers. We saw one guy with eyes in TMP on the bridge. Also is Gary Mitchell really dead?

 

It's worth a stab, I think. With stuff like Ciri and Cortana (the app, not the Halo character, lol), there's certainly been a push to anthropomorphisize the technology we use to make it more personable, appealing, and intuitive. Even if it wasn't a main regular "character", it'd be kind of neat for the ship to have some measure of personality, to reflect what the future might be.

Maybe it'd be interesting for that personality to be merely a simulacrum and for the AI to have a different type of (IE non-human-ish) intelligence. Maybe it's actually a collective of 1200 smaller intelligences working in unison, for instance?

 

This last theme-the desire to understand humanity-is likely played out.

I don't think that I would emphasize an android or EMH at this point, in terms of story potential these may be played out.

Mention of Andromeda reminds me of an episode in which one of the main characters reappears (from an alternate timeline) as a cyborg. That is, this character was so injured that she was rebuilt extensively with prostheses. What sort of story potential might there be for Trek?

No, I'm not thinking in terms of a sort of quasi-Borg. Consider the contrast between the Augments and the Jack Pack.

 

Yahoo had a show called Other Space with an AI character. She was basically in charge of the ship's functions and could interact with the crew through computer screens. It was a comedy so she was revealed to be a re-purposed AI from a Hooters casino ship, was involved in one robot uprising and fell in love with a weirder member of the crew.

 

Actually, I have come across speculation that AI may well turn out to have a nonhuman character. That is, you wouldn't get a human mind in your AI, but a sort of intelligence that is better at certain things than humans, but would have certain limitations compared to humans. It wouldn't even necessarily need to be self aware.

Today's computers may be an example. You don't get a human mind, but these machines can outstrip humans in mathematic calculations.

I understand that artificial neural nets can detect patterns that the human mind can't, but these also have their limitations.

 

It was never about having an AI character, it was about having a non-human/outsider. It's a pretty standard sci-fi trope, and we've seen it done in every iteration of television Trek. Yes, in TNG and Voyager it was an AI, but it in TOS it was Spock, in DS9 it was Odo and in ENT in T'Paul.

 

I would want a robot character. Not an android but an advanced robot. Imagine a less advanced version of TARS from Interstellar, but with a body like the robots from Elysium. It could be a sort of advanced intelligent probe that could be sent into hazardous environments. It wouldn't be part of the main cast but would be a reoccurring character. However, this would probably only work in an early era Trek.

 

What was cool about TNG, is that we had Worf AND Data as the outsider, and they both, saw humanity differently, sometimes conflictingly....

But, I think AI whether it's an andoird, hologram, robot, or even like a Hal computer type consciousness... is that it's creator being a human, would give it an interesting perspective...

BUT I still like my idea, the transferable AI... one that can be a shuttle, be a probe, be an android, be the computer.. The opportunities for story telling would be neat I think....

 

There's already evidence of the ship being sentient in TNG, though it requires some interpretation of whats going on with its processing. There are some instances where the computer does stuff that you would basically need to be sentient in order to replicate as well as it did.

I do think it would be interesting to have an AI character of sorts, possibly Personal AI assistants would be interesting because then you would have a whole potential community to explore as there'd be lots of them. One of these could easily become a major character that wouldn't necessarily be exploring the issues of Data and the EMH but rather exploring issues of what it means to be part of a group, to have your own culture and identity.

We explored really, the idea of Data being alone, but we never really explored the idea of Data being in a group of similar souls.