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Spoilers Andor season one

The last 2 episodes of season 1 are a two part story, so next week's should be the last one of this prison arc.

Season 2 is also going to be 12 episodes, made up of 3 episode arcs. Each arc is covering a different year, with the final arc ending right before Rogue One.

This is how Lucasfilm is structuring "Andor"?:wtf:

It is funny how evil the Empire became in 15 years. You’d think there would be more people thinking “are we the baddies?” After being ordered to massacre a planet

Didn't the Empire begin with the slaughter of the Jedi? Order 66?
 
I'm sorry I don't follow. If you don't know, I haven't seen the cartoons so I have no idea what much of the references in Andor are, I'm just really enjoying the show and what they're trying to say. I'm a bad Star Wars fan. :lol:

The beauty of Andor is there are almost no "references" to other bits of lore and on the rare occasions there are, the show doesn't require you to know them.
 
The beauty of Andor is there are almost no "references" to other bits of lore and on the rare occasions there are, the show doesn't require you to know them.
I can't really tell, but that's good. I really enjoy Star Wars, but I don't dig as deep into it as I do Star Trek, and I've never seen most of the animated shows, or read the comics, or the modern novels.
 
The beauty of Andor is there are almost no "references" to other bits of lore and on the rare occasions there are, the show doesn't require you to know them.


I don't see how referencing other bits of Star Wars lore is a problem. And isn't "Andor" more or less about the Rebel Alliance and the Empire, which have been around since "A New Hope"? Even the main character is from another Star Wars production.

That was done by the Sith, not by normal people, which was the OP's point.

As I recall, clone troopers also participated in the slaughter of the Jedi during Order 66 and immediately after. Isn't that what "Revenge of the Sith" and "The Bad Batch" had conveyed?
 
I don't see how referencing other bits of Star Wars lore is a problem. And isn't "Andor" more or less about the Rebel Alliance and the Empire, which have been around since "A New Hope"? Even the main character is from another Star Wars production.

At this point, you must literally be trying to miss every point. There's no other explanation.

As I recall, clone troopers also participated in the slaughter of the Jedi during Order 66 and immediately after. Isn't that what "Revenge of the Sith" and "The Bad Batch" had conveyed?

Sigh. Once again, the OP was talking about how evil had infected NORMAL people. Clones are not normal people and were, in fact, programmed to carry out Order 66.

Please see again point #1.
 
The beauty of Andor is there are almost no "references" to other bits of lore and on the rare occasions there are, the show doesn't require you to know them.

What really annoys me about "Andor" is the media and especially critics who continue to claim that it's something special in the Star Wars universe. Or worse, it's basically the only SW production with mature or adult themes. That is bullshit. Star Wars has more or less been complex and mature in its narratives since "The Empire Strikes Back". I'm not too sure about the Sequel Trilogy, but that could be just personal feelings on my part. It's not even the first Star Wars production not to feature Force-sensitive characters. "Solo" was. And yes, "Andor" had Legend characters like Mon Mothma, who is practically the leading lady of this series, and Saw Guerra. Even Cassian Andor came from another SW production - namely "Rogue One".

And I"m getting sick and tired of film critics telling me what I should and should not like. Don't worry. I actually like "Andor". But for me, it's not the end all of Star Wars productions. Not by a long shot.
At this point, you must literally be trying to miss every point. There's no other explanation.



Sigh. Once again, the OP was talking about how evil had infected NORMAL people. Clones are not normal people and were, in fact, programmed to carry out Order 66.

Please see again point #1.


Clones are not normal people? Wow. Then what is the point of portraying characters like Boba Fett, and the clone troopers from "The Clone Wars" and "The Bad Batch" as fully fleshed personalities? Even "normal people" can be brainwashed into committing evil deeds.


At this point, you must literally be trying to miss every point. There's no other explanation.

I'm not missing the point. I'm merely pointing out what I have noticed. I'm sorry. LIke I said before, I do like "Andor", but I feel it has to be one of the most overrated Star Wars productions I have seen . . . and probably one of the most overrated series I have seen. People keep claiming that it is showing something new in the Star Wars universe. The only thing new about this series to me is that it feels more like a show from the Syfy Channel than from Star Wars.
 
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What really annoys me about "Andor" is the media and especially critics who continue to claim that it's something special in the Star Wars universe. Or worse, it's basically the only SW production with mature or adult themes. That is bullshit. Star Wars has more or less been complex and mature in its narratives since "The Empire Strikes Back". I'm not too sure about the Sequel Trilogy, but that could be just personal feelings on my part. It's not even the first Star Wars production not to feature Force-sensitive characters. "Solo" was. And yes, "Andor" had Legend characters like Mon Mothma, who is practically the leading lady of this series, and Saw Guerra. Even Cassian Andor came from another SW production - namely "Rogue One".

And I"m getting sick and tired of film critics telling me what I should and should not like. Don't worry. I actually like "Andor". But for me, it's not the end all of Star Wars productions. Not by a long shot.



Clones are not normal people? Wow. Then what is the point of portraying characters like Boba Fett, and the clone troopers from "The Clone Wars" and "The Bad Batch" as fully fleshed personalities? Even "normal people" can be brainwashed into committing evil deeds.




I'm not missing the point. I'm merely pointing out what I have noticed. I'm sorry. LIke I said before, I do like "Andor", but I feel it has to be one of the most overrated Star Wars productions I have seen . . . and probably one of the most overrated series I have seen. People keep claiming that it is showing something new in the Star Wars universe. The only thing new about this series to me is that it feels more like a show from the Syfy Channel than from Star Wars.

I take it back. It's clear you're not missing the point on purpose.
 
People keep claiming that it is showing something new in the Star Wars universe.
It's definitely not that. I think it's taking already present elements and unpacking them further by showing the "everyday person" rather than all the special people.
 
It's definitely not that. I think it's taking already present elements and unpacking them further by showing the "everyday person" rather than all the special people.


I'm just not impressed. Not even that aspect has blown my mind. But it's still a decent production.


I take it back. It's clear you're not missing the point on purpose.

You're accusing me of missing the point, because why? Because I don't share your opinion about this series? Why is that important to you?
 
I'm just not impressed. Not even that aspect has blown my mind. But it's still a decent production.
I'm not impressed either, nor do I wish to be. Shows should entertain, perhaps provoke thought, and maybe excite or impact on some emotional level. But, looking to be impressed? Nah. Just be a show.
 
I find myself wondering how long they’re going to get away with minimalism in the Senate scenes.

For one thing, there should be a lot more aliens.
 
That was done by the Sith, not by normal people, which was the OP's point.

\To be fair, Bik already knows about the ISB and calls them the worst of the worst, so they have a reputation. One well earned. The Empire did crush the Mid Rim and Outer Rim and forcibly integrated the Sepratists back early on. But before, the empire was harsh but could be waived away as 'fair', and most of the Republican core and mid rim loved it. But now it's clamping down on everyone over a meagre 80,000,000 creds.
 
I hope we see Sly Moore or Mas Amedda show up in the Speaker's/Chancellor's rostrum and overseeing a session of the Senate. The Emperor need not appear in person but his right hand aides and bureaucrats in the Senate probably should.
 
Still wonder if we will get the Ezra Bridger broadcast at the end. It was a galactic broadcast call for Rebellion during this year. I believe even Mon Mothma mentioned hearing it.

Mostly it was to let people know that the Empire was being terrible Galaxy wide, but also that the Rebels were fighting back and that if you were a rebel, you are not alone. Something desperately needs for those without hope.
 
It has been a bit weird that so far the senate's central podium has been empty. There's not even a token functionary to act as speaker of the house (I assumed that was mostly Mas Amedda's job.)
Though I suppose it shows just how irrelevant the Senate has become that the palace doesn't even feel the need to assign a protocol droid to keep order.
Still wonder if we will get the Ezra Bridger broadcast at the end. It was a galactic broadcast call for Rebellion during this year. I believe even Mon Mothma mentioned hearing it.
She did, though I don't think it was galaxy-wide. From what's said in the episode one of those towers could reach the nearby systems. If it got further than that, it was probably recorded and passed around on pirate/rebel channels.
 
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