I did like how the Scottish-accented officer of the security force had big sideburns reminiscent of the '70s pork chop sideburns many of the actors and extras had in the original Star Wars movie.
Spoilers Andor season one
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I wondered about the all teens/children tribe too.
I don't think it's as you say since the events that we saw were obviously pre-Imperial (possibly during the Clone Wars, if not earlier) while whatever supposedly wiped out everyone on Kenari is described as an "Imperial mining disaster", which means it likely happened after Kassa/Cassian left. That said the mine certainly looked old and abandoned, so unless the Empire restarted the mining operation, something here doesn't fit.
Either way that still means the adults were either taken or killed before the Empire was a thing. That could mean anything from plague, to slaver raid, to some corporate genocide, or some toxic spill that kills older people faster somehow?
The fact that the kids don't speak anything resembling Basic leads me to think they're not decedents from abandoned workers (or if they are it was a very VERY long time ago) but a long established native population, cut off from the rest of galactic civilization. I guess it's possible the ages are just down to how harsh life is on this planet and life expectancy usually tops out around 30 . . . but you'd still expect to see one or two "elders" and, you know; babies in there somewhere. There wasn't, which leads us back to a more recent event or change in circumstances.
I'm sure there's a story there, we just don't have all the pieces yet. Whatever the case, it's a fair bet that "mining disaster" is basically Imperial code for "we murdered all the natives and strip-mined the place into uninhabitability, but don't tell the Senate that!"
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"Mining disaster" is what Vader tells Director Krennic the Senate will be told after Jedha is used to test the Death Star. Sounds like standard operating procedure in Palpatine's Empire.
Just finished episode 1. I have to say, I just love long, boring flashbacks starring children. The only thing better then that is long, boring flashbacks starring children...and you can't understand a fucking word they're saying, and the show purposefully doesn't translate what they say. 
Seriously, you can skip past all the flashbacks and miss nothing, in fact you gain something by not being annoyed and confused. I don't give a crap about Andor's childhood anyway (I barely care about Andor, and I say that as someone who loves Rogue One), but actively pissing me off is not helping. I get it, he is from a planet that either a) lost all of its technology and reverted to a primitive society or 2) he's not human, only human like, and his species just didn't have technology or c) its some type of colony or survivors of a crashed ship that no longer have technology. Its a shitty sub plot regardless, but filming it like its fucking Quest for Fire is infuriating. It also completely destroys the flow of the show.
I don't know why they're so obsessed with flashbacks on these shows, but these might be worse then Book Boba Fett's, since at least Boba Fett still had some dialog in his flashback scenes.
Besides that the episode was ok, but if these flashbacks don't get fucking subtitles (or, preferably, just stop) I'm just skipping past them going forward.
Seriously, you can skip past all the flashbacks and miss nothing, in fact you gain something by not being annoyed and confused. I don't give a crap about Andor's childhood anyway (I barely care about Andor, and I say that as someone who loves Rogue One), but actively pissing me off is not helping. I get it, he is from a planet that either a) lost all of its technology and reverted to a primitive society or 2) he's not human, only human like, and his species just didn't have technology or c) its some type of colony or survivors of a crashed ship that no longer have technology. Its a shitty sub plot regardless, but filming it like its fucking Quest for Fire is infuriating. It also completely destroys the flow of the show.
I don't know why they're so obsessed with flashbacks on these shows, but these might be worse then Book Boba Fett's, since at least Boba Fett still had some dialog in his flashback scenes.
Besides that the episode was ok, but if these flashbacks don't get fucking subtitles (or, preferably, just stop) I'm just skipping past them going forward.
except the dialogue suggests the flashbacks predated the empire.
Which is odd since the planet is called the victim of an "Imperial" mining disaster. The flashbacks don't precisely line up with the characterization of the mining operation since one of the characters refers to a Republic frigate arriving in orbit.
I found something interesting after my last post. I got on Wookiepedia to double check some of the names, and after that went to the page for Cassian to see if it was updated, and it said that he was born on Fest. So apparently they are acknowledging his old backstory while retconning it into the fake story Maarva used for him.
And I just checked and it's now been updated with the Kenari stuff.
And I just checked and it's now been updated with the Kenari stuff.
Yeah, as I said; there's more to this story. For one thing, Kassa's sister presumably also somehow gets removed from the planet at some point after he left.
Another element to consider is Cassian's line from Rogue One staring that's he's "been in this fight" since he was 6. Kassa in the flashback is clearly young but not *that* young. This could indicate that whatever happened to the adults, happened then, and whatever it was likely happened before the Clone Wars.
Some folk outside of either probably have no idea who is who, given that CIS was the Republic some time earlier.
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itd explain Cassian’s anger. He wasn’t afraid when he boarded that crashed ship.
Enjoyed the 3 Andor episodes - despite knowing nothing about it - Haven't seen the movie.
Good that they released the 3 episodes at one.
allowed time to build, but still went somewhere instead of being just drip fed as a starting point.
Really happy there was no light saber, force wielding thing in sight - hopefully it stays that way for as long as possible.
any images or information on the buyer/recruiter's ship?
Good that they released the 3 episodes at one.
allowed time to build, but still went somewhere instead of being just drip fed as a starting point.
Really happy there was no light saber, force wielding thing in sight - hopefully it stays that way for as long as possible.
any images or information on the buyer/recruiter's ship?
I'm curious what kind of trouble Karn is going to get in after what happened in Ep. 3. He ignored an order from his superior, and then ended up getting most of his team on Ferrix killed, so I can't imagine this will end well for him.
I hope this isn't the end of Tony Gilroy's time with Star Wars, his grittier, more grounded take on the Star War galaxy is a nice counterpoint to the more traditional Star Wars stuff like The Mandalorian, and what we can assume Ahsoka will probably be like.
I hope this isn't the end of Tony Gilroy's time with Star Wars, his grittier, more grounded take on the Star War galaxy is a nice counterpoint to the more traditional Star Wars stuff like The Mandalorian, and what we can assume Ahsoka will probably be like.
I can see why they released all three at once as this was not three episodes: it was one, 100 minute long episode divided quite arbitrarily into three. So it will be interesting to see if episode four can stand by itself when it's released next week.
I liked how all the characters felt like real people. Little intereactions like Skarsgard's character talking to the old guy on the train really made it feel like a real, lived-in world (like the original Star Wars!) It also actually looked like it was all taking place in a real place and not on a stage inside of The Volume and that was very appreciated. The action in the third episode felt grounded and real but still like it belonged in Star Wars. It was good!
I liked how all the characters felt like real people. Little intereactions like Skarsgard's character talking to the old guy on the train really made it feel like a real, lived-in world (like the original Star Wars!) It also actually looked like it was all taking place in a real place and not on a stage inside of The Volume and that was very appreciated. The action in the third episode felt grounded and real but still like it belonged in Star Wars. It was good!
And it shows.
While I love what The Volume can do for productions, it's already quickly becoming the "Get me some morphing, stat!" of current production techniques. Hopefully just like morphing they simmer down soon and learn to use it more creatively/sparingly.
The look of Andor is fabulous.
While I love what The Volume can do for productions, it's already quickly becoming the "Get me some morphing, stat!" of current production techniques. Hopefully just like morphing they simmer down soon and learn to use it more creatively/sparingly.
The look of Andor is fabulous.
The stakes were super high, just that no one knows it yet.
That Karen guys failure led to the destruction of the death star.
Going to be honest. This looks visually fantastic, but there isn't any story here, so far.
Three episodes of what is basically prologue? That feels a lot like a mistake to me. Now, I'm invested because of the period and the casting, so of course I'll be back to see where it goes from here. But my girlfriend walked out midway through the second episode and I doubt she'll be back.
Really curious to see how general audiences react to this one, outside of the SW nerd set.
Three episodes of what is basically prologue? That feels a lot like a mistake to me. Now, I'm invested because of the period and the casting, so of course I'll be back to see where it goes from here. But my girlfriend walked out midway through the second episode and I doubt she'll be back.
Really curious to see how general audiences react to this one, outside of the SW nerd set.
Unlike other streaming shows, such as The Handmaid's Tale and The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel, that release three episodes at the beginning of the season to draw fans in, this opening trilogy has a strong beginning, middle, and ending while setting up for the rest of the season. I wasn't sure how things were going to play out (in both timelines) but once all of that became clear, I loved what I saw. I particularly enjoyed how the show carefully laid out the setting, the characters, and their motivations without holding the viewers' hands about what's happening and instead trusting them to put all of the pieces together on their own.
While the show is obviously focused on Cassian, I appreciated the lengths the show went to establish Ferrix as a fully-fledged colony populated with engaging characters, both good and bad, despite the fact that presumably we've seen the last of Ferrix now that Cassian has left (and I expect Bix will leave sooner than later, too). That said, I'll be sad if this is the last we've seen of present-day Maarva because I always relish watching Fiona Shaw quietly taunt lesser men.
I don't know what the rest of the series holds beyond building up Cassian as a future Rebel leader but I'm all in. I can't wait to watch more!
That said, it is curious how Maarva referred to a Republic ship, and not an Imperial ship, that was about to arrive and would probably wipe out the tribe. Which begs the question why Cassian thinks his sister is alive and off planet.
While the show is obviously focused on Cassian, I appreciated the lengths the show went to establish Ferrix as a fully-fledged colony populated with engaging characters, both good and bad, despite the fact that presumably we've seen the last of Ferrix now that Cassian has left (and I expect Bix will leave sooner than later, too). That said, I'll be sad if this is the last we've seen of present-day Maarva because I always relish watching Fiona Shaw quietly taunt lesser men.
I don't know what the rest of the series holds beyond building up Cassian as a future Rebel leader but I'm all in. I can't wait to watch more!
Yes! I love the street-level view of the Empire. Not just on Ferrix but also the Blade Runner-esque Morlana One. I hope we see plenty more of that perspective from this show.
My read on that situation was the Empire took all of the adults as slaves for the mines and the flashbacks begin just as the mine is failing with the crashing ship populated with a crew too sick to flee properly.
That said, it is curious how Maarva referred to a Republic ship, and not an Imperial ship, that was about to arrive and would probably wipe out the tribe. Which begs the question why Cassian thinks his sister is alive and off planet.
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