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Spoilers Andor - Season 2

Honestly? Love Heir to the Empire, but I think the Rebels take on Thrawn is better since his interest and understanding of art and culture how it can apply to military matters is more complex and personal than "species X made art Y therefore they will do Z".

The thing that makes Heir to the Empire really good to me is loser girl Mara Jade, Thrawn ain't shit.
Thrawn was a Marty Stu. ;)
 
I'd call that a vastly misguided hope based on what led up to it. Like hoping for ribeye steak after a vegan invites you over for dinner.
:lol:
'Heir to the Empire' isn't really all that good. It's OK. It's fine. It's very influential. We can do much better.
Heir to the Empire was okay at best.
Heir to the Empire itself wasn't bad, but the rest of that trilogy sure doesn't measure up to the pedestal fandom has put it on over the years.
The very first time Thrawn turned up on Rebels worried me because he didn't do anything particularly Thrawny in that episode.
I thought the rather low-key way they introduced Thrawn in his first Rebels episode was very much "Thrawny."
 
1) I'd call that a vastly misguided hope based on what led up to it. Like hoping for ribeye steak after a vegan invites you over for dinner.
2) If you're paying attention you'd see we are indeed getting a version of 'Heir to the Empire', piecemeal across multiple seasons of TV and one, possibly two movies.
3) 'Heir to the Empire' isn't really all that good. It's OK. It's fine. It's very influential. We can do much better.
I like Heir to the Empire a lot, but I like what we've been getting across the TV shows even more.
I want to go back to the animation and live action coexisting thing for a second. I love that we're at a point in the franchise that things like Rebels, and Andor, and the High Republic books and comics and Young Jedi Adventures are all able coexising and weave in and out of each other. Same goes for Strange New Worlds and Lower Decks in Star Trek, and She-Hulk and Daredevil in the MCU. I think it's really cool that we can have such a huge variety of shows and movies that all coexist in these franchises now.
 
Something else that occurs to me is that everything that's happening in this show is leading up to a movie that showed the Ghost as an Easter egg, verbally gave Hera Syndulla an Easter egg shout out, and had a cameo appearance from Chopper himself! :shrug:
Actually Andor/RO have been very good at doing Easter eggs in the traditional subtle meaning of the term.
It's supposed to be a little background moment that is fun if you notice but inconsequential if you don't. That's not the same as loading a show with another shows characters or constant connections to other shows like season 3 of Bo Katan or whatever the fuk Picard 3 was up to.
 
We basically have the equivalent of a full Star Wars movie (in runtime) coming out this week and we really don't know what it will be about. Honestly it seems the stage was set after last week to lead right into Rogue One. Yeah we need to tie up Luthen/Kleya and the Mothma family but honestly that doesn't need 3 entire Star Wars episodes. So I'm curious if these episodes will maintain the quality so far or stumble at the end because it's not clear there's really a filmed story to be told (instead of something filled in via comics/novels) in the remaining timeframe leading to Rogue One (Boba Fett, Skeleton Crew, and Acolyte had FAR more loose ends in their, for now, series finales than Andor does right now).
 
We basically have the equivalent of a full Star Wars movie (in runtime) coming out this week and we really don't know what it will be about. Honestly it seems the stage was set after last week to lead right into Rogue One. Yeah we need to tie up Luthen/Kleya and the Mothma family but honestly that doesn't need 3 entire Star Wars episodes. So I'm curious if these episodes will maintain the quality so far or stumble at the end because it's not clear there's really a filmed story to be told (instead of something filled in via comics/novels) in the remaining timeframe leading to Rogue One (Boba Fett, Skeleton Crew, and Acolyte had FAR more loose ends in their, for now, series finales than Andor does right now).

There's Dedra who may resume her search for Axis/Luthen/Andor, there's Lonni as well I guess.

There'd be a certain synchronicity if it looks like Luthen's cover is about to be blown and the Rebel Alliance send Cassian to eliminate him before he can be captured.

We may get more Krennic/Death Star stuff as well. Possibly some Saw.
 
Possibly some Saw.
There probably does need to be some lineup of why no one can reach Saw peacefully anymore (thus needing Jyn to help) in Rogue One but even that arguably is already resolved by that episode of Rebels of Saw screaming at Mon Mothma as a giant holographic head. And arguably Rebels itself undermines that premise as it's never made clear why the Alliance doesn't ask the Ghost crew, who Saw was on semi-decent terms with, to talk to Saw for them.

Also, and someone more versed in the current canon than me might help, if the Empire is still putting a show of decency as late as 2 BBY by portraying the Ghorman as violent protesters who the Empire was defending itself against, how are they justifying the enslavement of Wookiees (which has been going on for some time per Rebels and Solo)? Was a fake Wookiee protest set up too? Are they still being blamed for helping Yoda escape?
 
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Chewie refused a medal on Yavin because Mon Mothma only spoke out after humans on Ghorman were killed but didn't say a word when he and his entire species were literally enslaved for years before that. It was only Leia's pleading and negotations that stopped Chewie from boycotting the Yavin medal ceremony entirely, and even then he insisted that Mon Mothma not be present.
 
That's not the same as loading a show with another shows characters or constant connections to other shows like season 3 of Bo Katan
Bo Katan had already been introduced back in Season 2, and the arc had building up for a while by the time we got to season three, so it's not like it all came out of nowhere. And the show is called The Mandalorian and Mandalorian culture was a big part of it, so it made perfect sense for one the franchise's most important Mandalorian characters would show up. This is a shared universe, so of course we're going to be getting crossovers and connections.
or whatever the fuk Picard 3 was up to.
You mean being awesome?
 
Chewie refused a medal on Yavin because Mon Mothma only spoke out after humans on Ghorman were killed but didn't say a word when he and his entire species were literally enslaved for years before that. It was only Leia's pleading and negotations that stopped Chewie from boycotting the Yavin medal ceremony entirely, and even then he insisted that Mon Mothma not be present.
OK, that's very creative, but headcanon or canon?
 
Bo Katan had already been introduced back in Season 2, and the arc had building up for a while by the time we got to season three, so it's not like it all came out of nowhere. And the show is called The Mandalorian and Mandalorian culture was a big part of it, so it made perfect sense for one the franchise's most important Mandalorian characters would show up. This is a shared universe, so of course we're going to be getting crossovers and connections.
Bo Katan was one of the best parts of the show. The whole dynamic of her vs. the nonsense Children of the Watch was so much more interesting, and how Din goes from a lone wolf outsider to being able to broker peace is actually one of the best arcs for the character.
 
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