Spoilers Andor - Season 2

[Nerys Myk]

I hope the show doesn't contrive to kill almost everyone off simply because we never see them in the later films. Luthen will probably die,

Luthen is Moses. He's led the Rebellion through the wilderness, but will not live to enter "the Promised Land."

 

[Starkers]

We need a deleted scene where Tarkin says "Aha the rebels are on Yavin!" and then some low ranking Imperial in the background starts going nuts. "That's what I've been telling you for three years!"

 

[Yistaan]

How many times did Andor almost shoot Dedra? It was on the verge of entering Batman (66) territory "Some days you just can't shoot a high ranking ISB agent."

I am assuming Dedra will have a part to play in the last three episodes.

I hope the show doesn't contrive to kill almost everyone off simply because we never see them in the later films. Luthen will probably die, it's the way his story was always going to end, but there's no reason Bix, or Vel or Kelya or even Lonni can't get out of the show alive. It's a big Rebellion!

Also my one niggle about this show is that it doubles down on a problem I had with Rogue One. Why did the Empire need to go to the trouble of tracking the Falcon to Yavin when it seemed everyone and their uncle (Harlo) knew where the Rebel base was?

Bix: Yes, I know where the Rebel base is, get me in touch with Lord Vader immediately so I can claim the Imperial reward and watch you guys slice up my treasonous ex-boyfriend!

Imperial officer: Get lost you conwoman, the Empire doesn't go SWATting every planet reported to us just because the "informant" got into a fight with her boyfriend.


And in regards to Batman 66, they should re-edit the Cassian/Syril fight with the PAF, WHAM, KABAM visual "sound effects" that were used in that show: https://batman60stv.fandom.com/wiki/Onomatopoeia

 

[Starkers]

I wish I had a time machine because it'd be fun to go back to 1983 and catch up with 12 year old me coming out of the cinema after seeing Jedi for the first time and basically telling him that the woman with the funny hair talking about Bothans would wind up one of his favourite characters in the whole franchise.

One imagines 12 year old me would probably laugh in my face.

 

[Yistaan]

Mon: Many Bothans died to bring us this informaion.

Luthen (shouts from the back): Many people died to get you out of the Senate!

 

[Nerys Myk]

Mon: Many Bothans died to bring us this informaion.

Luthen (shouts from the back): Many people died to get you out of the Senate!

Like Luthen cares about the body count.

 

[Starkers]

Also a tad unfair for Cassian to say "Welcome to the Rebellion" given Mon was technically a rebel long before he was!

 

[Yistaan]

Also a tad unfair for Cassian to say "Welcome to the Rebellion" given Mon was technically a rebel long before he was!

Now now per his own words in Rogue One, he's been in this fight since he was 6 years old!

 

[Set Harth]

Which was before the Clone Wars.
The only way that makes sense is to interpret it as meaning he's been "in the fight" since whatever happened to Kenari.

 

[Tuskin38]

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[cooleddie74]

Luthen would sacrifice Mon herself if he thought it would actually give the Rebellion the upper hand. Make no mistake, he's a brave man, but he's the most Machiavellian hero in the history of the franchise.

 

[Yistaan]

Honestly I think the ISB supervisor who failed to shut down Mothma's speech should've been Blevin instead of Lagret, to bring some closure to his rivalry with Meero from last season. As it is Blevin and his plotline pretty much disappeared.

 

[saddestmoon]

Finished a rewatch of S1 tonight and found myself wondering about something I had rejected out of hand until now: The idea that Luthen Rael might be a Jedi.

1. During his famous monologue, he mentions that he began the fight 15 years before. This is 5 BBY which puts his decision squarely with the fall of the Jedi Temple and establishment of the Empire.

2. His walking stick retracts like a lightsaber into a handle that could be a lightsaber hilt with the kyber crystal removed: the sky kyber crystal he sends to Aldhani with Andor and later, presumably, gets back from Vel.

3. When Saw's people frisk him for weapons, they take his walking stick handle. He mentions to them that they should either take it or give it back. A little extra attention paid to it there. Why?

4. He walks around Ferrix and some other places hooded in a way very reminiscent of the Jedi.

5. We know nothing about his own origins, unlike most of the other major characters in the show.

6. His ship's odd weapon that behaves very much like a double-bladed lightsaber extruding from the sides of the ship, which takes out those two TIEs. We haven't seen a weapon like that anywhere else in SW, except as a lightsaber itself. Even Slave One's seismic charges were different than this.

7. If Luthen is indeed hiding from the Inquisitors in addition to fighting the good fight, he's doing an exceptional job of it. Not a hint of Force use, even during the times he is in mortal danger. Being based on Coruscant so relatively close to the Emperor, closing himself off to the Force as much as possible would be an absolute necessity.

I guess we'll find out on Tuesday. Not expecting any sort of lightsaber action or even Force use, but it would be interesting if, in his last moments, we learn that he was in fact a Jedi all along, albeit one in a very dark mental place. If not, that's perfectly okay. In truth I'd prefer him to NOT be a Jedi because that is the line this show is all about in the first place. But we will see.

I agree - and I’ve been thinking about Luthen’s backstory for a while. We know so little about him, for such a pivotal instigator / antagonist - that I’m firmly in the camp of, there’s more to be revealed about him (possibly shockingly so)…

[counting down to series finale]

 

[Yistaan]

Eedy: Harlo, I have another favor to ask, get Syril's body from Ghorman to Dathomir immediately.

 

[David cgc]

Luthen would sacrifice Mon herself if he thought it would actually give the Rebellion the upper hand. Make no mistake, he's a brave man, but he's the most Machiavellian hero in the history of the franchise.

Mon and Cassian had a point in this arc when they both said they were over his schtick. Mon wondering if she'd even realize that she'd made the mistake that would get him to kill her, the way Tay did, and Cassian remarking that it'd be easier if Luthen was his enemy (rather than, I took it, an ally that he can't trust).

 

[Yistaan]

Luthen let an unstable and former drug abuser Bix who knew too much leave Yavin alive (I think).

 

[Tuskin38]

get Syril's body from Ghorman to Dathomir immediately.

Get over it

 

[Set Harth]

I don't think it would work on someone who wasn't a Nightsister.

 

[Kor]

"He's really not dead, as long as we remember him."
Oops, wrong franchise.

Kor

 

[Tuskin38]

Say It in Ghor: How Andor Brought a Brand New Language to Star Wars

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