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Spoilers Andor - Season 2
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I'm surprised it wasn't mined from the lore.
According to wookieepedia it was never mentioned before Andor, not even in the Catalyst novel detailing Krennic's work on the Death Star.
Having kalkite as a macguffin is problematic because without Ghorman then they can't build superweapons. So either the Empire takes enough that they can still supply the First Order's planetkiller ships 30 years later (and even then at some point they'll run out if Ghorman itself doesn't survive this week) OR the New Republic was so negligent that they never noticed the First Order apparently getting kalkite from Ghorman in the 30 years between ROTJ and TFA.
Well that was uncalled for.
It's just the new coaxium. It'll get a couple of name drops but that might be it.
The New Republic government was very much a reactive system not a proactive system. Largely, they ignored problems until they became impossible to ignore.
I called for it.
I thought rhydonium was the new coaxium. Except that’s originally from TCW, which means coaxium is the new rhydonium…
Because discovering or engineering an alternative solution to the materials problem over nearly 4 decades is such a stretch?
We all know that in Star Wars that's not how technology works
Fair enough, they obviously invented lightspeed skipping between the OT and ST.
I headcanon that's a derivative of kyber, and they didn't want to name drop that, so the writers came up with something that sounds like it can be related but since it's a new material, they can do whatever they want with it.
Just like Voyager making up new technobabble every other episode
Just like Voyager making up new technobabble every other episode
It's arguably an inevitability. All of the Final Order Death-Star Destroyers could've comfortably fit inside the original Death Star's reactor, yet each single one could match its power. There had to be some crazy amount of technical advancement for that to be possible, and even if they needed kalkite for their reactors, they would've needed considerably less than the Death Stars, just because the pieces were smaller.
It's also unlikely that Ghorman is the only source, just the most convenient source under those circumstances for the quantities they needed. And "those circumstances" might've included the decision to use Ghorman as flypaper to draw rebels and revolutionaries into one sexy, high-profile resistance struggle before crushing them utterly, which had probably started a while ago.
The problem is that the canon Marvel comics already had Final Order Star Destroyers in production in Exegol around the time of Empire Strikes Back, a mere 5 years after the Ghorman massacre. Now MAYBE it's still in the planning phases and Palpatine's engineers hadn't worked out all the details BUT they already had the basic design enough that skeletal prototypes at least were being built.
So that's a lot of advancement in 5 years. No wonder Death Star 2 got built so fast.
I don't think the empire expects or originally had in mind a full genocide.
I think they are hoping that after a bit of a roughing up, space France will submit to relocation.
However Space France wont meekly surrender and things will escalate to complete genocide which the empire will succeed but also bungle it making it far more messy and public than it normally likes.
I think they are hoping that after a bit of a roughing up, space France will submit to relocation.
However Space France wont meekly surrender and things will escalate to complete genocide which the empire will succeed but also bungle it making it far more messy and public than it normally likes.
In Rebels, Mon Mothma directly accuses the Emperor of responsibility of the Ghorman massacre. As recently as last week's Andor episode Carro Rylanz claims he believes the Emperor is unaware of the ISB's atrocities and innocent.
I certainly hope Mothma finds a way to conclusively link in tonight's episodes the atrocities to Palpatine because right now with Krennic and the ISB it seems like Palpatine's setting up plausible deniability for himself.
Vel Sartha will defect from the Rebellion to the Empire, as she joins in on the Ghorman Massacre and shoots up Cinta's killer a gazillion times. Even Moff Tarkin has to stop her. As she breaks down in tears, Vader says "Welcome to the Empire" and she tells them everything she knows, bitter that the Rebellion got Cinta killed.
I certainly hope Mothma finds a way to conclusively link in tonight's episodes the atrocities to Palpatine because right now with Krennic and the ISB it seems like Palpatine's setting up plausible deniability for himself.
Vel Sartha will defect from the Rebellion to the Empire, as she joins in on the Ghorman Massacre and shoots up Cinta's killer a gazillion times. Even Moff Tarkin has to stop her. As she breaks down in tears, Vader says "Welcome to the Empire" and she tells them everything she knows, bitter that the Rebellion got Cinta killed.
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