Spoilers Andor - Season 2

[Starkers]

I like how Ghorman is basically the French resistance. I feel like I’m watching ‘Allo ‘Allo during those scenes.

Of course before Allo Allo there was Secret Army which AA parodied. It was a deathly serious show but I daren't watch it again because I'll just keep expecting Bernard Hepton to say "You stupid woman!" all the time!

 

[Set Harth]

and being rendered unable to breathe normally thanks to genocidal chemicals used by the Empire to exterminate the Geonosian race.

I know this was said in some book, but it feels like Andor is trying to explain Saw's condition differently. I expected Rebels to go there - the pieces were in place - but it didn't.

In the next episode, Ghormans try to drown out a rendition of The Imperial March in a cafe by playing their national anthem.

don't give them ideas

Huh. I thought that she said she was the youngest queen ever elected.

So did Matt Stover, but you can't expect Star Wars authors to actually watch Star Wars movies.

 

[Dee1891]

If it gets out that Tay dies mysteriously and no one knows about Luthen's part, it would give the impression Mon's a heartless killer which in turn makes it more believable that Cassian genuinely thinks Mon ordered Galen Erso's death in Rogue One

Those time jumps were actually jarring especially for the prequels. They had to fit a tv show between them to make them feel less jarring

To you perhaps? The time jumps in the Prequel movies weren't jarring to me.

 

[Set Harth]

The recast was because Jimmy was busy.

Maybe he just... bailed.

 

[fireproof78]

So did Matt Stover, but you can't expect Star Wars authors to actually watch Star Wars movies.

That's not their job.

 

[The Wormhole]

I was looking over the thread for the first season when I stumbled upon this particular exchange between posters:

I wonder how long Meero is going to be cool with her assistant speaking up and taking initiative. She does not strike me as the kind of person that would appreciate that. Maybe she'll take Syril as a new "aid".

Even if she decides her current aide has outlived his usefulness, I don't see her doing that under any circumstances.

Boy, that Wormhole guy sure got that wrong. What an idiot.

 

[thribs]

I would think that is the prerequisite. Movies are the most canon of them all and so it should be standard practice

 

[Set Harth]

That's not their job.

Right, their job is being overconfident and fucking shit up.

 

[fireproof78]

Right, their job is being overconfident and fucking shit up.

Don't hold back; tell us how you really feel.

 

[Set Harth]

 

[Starkers]

I thought they were three great episodes. Nice to see political shenanigans and some actual spying involving some actual tradecraft. Syril is surprisingly effective as a spy, though I'd agree with what others have said, he's something of a loose end and Dedra doesn't look like she'd hesitate to snip that loose thread.

I actually felt like they were setting up Vel to die so Cinta taking the hit surprised me (although it shouldn't have given Varada had another sci-fi show to be filming!).

It's amsuing that Lonni looks more and more in over his head with each passing appearance. I wonder at what stage Luthen will decide he's outlived his usefulness?

Did like the "We should have killed Krennic line

Also liked Bix getting some much deserved catharsis. Wonder if she'll ever get her hands on Dedra?

Everyone on Ghorman being French was jarring at first but it was a good way to make the people seem different and as has been said makes a clear parallel with the French resistance in WW2. The tunnels also gave the feel of old school sewers and something like The third Man.

 

[Jenee]

????

My hormones over 26 were WAAAAYYY worse than anything in my teens (let's not even get into my 30s). In my teens, I always had hope that I would meet dates "in the future", "in the working world", "when I grow up" etc. When I was an adult in a "successful", high-paying job in the cold working world, everywhere I went was "I don't know you, why are you talking to me", the "hopes" I had as a teenager were dashed by brutal adult reality, and suddenly there was no coping mechanism for hormones that I had in my teens with my false hopes that things would improve in adulthood...

There was a desperation that affected my adult decisions that NEVER came into my thinking as a teenager... I was trying to live in the perfect big city to attract potential dates, be in just the right place at the right time with the right friends for oppotunities to meet them (or be labeled a stalker otherwise if you get labeled as not belonging there), get the perfect physique, and so on, as an adult that I just didn't feel the need for such superficial demands as a teen. The hearing loss I mentioned passingly earlier in this thread was devastating to me as an adult in a way that it never was as a teen.

Obviously, individual experiences can be contrary to “the norm”. I’m speaking in general terms which is why I say “the human brain” and not “her/his brain is in this specific area.

 

[Jenee]

Even Obi-Wan lied to Luke about his own father out of some selfish need to salve his own wounded pride over his failure to successfully guide and mentor Anakin. Sure, part of it can always be stated as "protecting Luke from the horror of his father's downfall into evil," but there were better ways than leading Luke to believe Vader and his father were two completely different people, one being the victim of murder.

I don’t consider Obi Wan as having lied to Luke. When trying to align some OT things with Prequal things that don’t match always takes me out of the story. I really wish a better writer/story creator had been available for the Obi Wan series. That was such a let down.

 

[Set Harth]

Not only did he lie to Luke, but in the old pre-Disney continuity he was instructed by Qui-Gon to lie to Luke.

 

[Yistaan]

Not only did he lie to Luke, but in the old pre-Disney continuity he was instructed by Qui-Gon to lie to Luke.

Obi-Wan: So now you're telling me to tell lies huh? How do I know you're really the ghost of Qui-Gon? For all I know you're just a Sith entity posing as my dead master and trying to make things worse!!

 

[Nerys Myk]

Everyone on Ghorman being French was jarring at first but it was a good way to make the people seem different and as has been said makes a clear parallel with the French resistance in WW2. The tunnels also gave the feel of old school sewers and something like The third Man.

The Empire are Space Nazis, so it makes sense that there is a Space French Resistance.

 

[cooleddie74]

Sacre Bleu does sound like a Star Wars name.

 

[TheFlutteringHorde]

It'd be deeply funny if Dedra plans to use Syril as the fall guy when they decide it's time to wrap up the resistance, and his public arrest/execution is one of the events that sparks the massacre.

 

[Set Harth]

"If I say this is the greatest day of my life... does it spoil everything?"

 

[Yistaan]

"If I say this is the greatest day of my life... does it spoil everything?"

It was point blank insult at Dedra and Syril didn't even realize it. The greatest day of his life is supposed to be when an unattainable beauty like her decided to lower her standards into having anything to do with him, much less romance him. No wonder Dedra looked so furious when Syril said that.

But Syril will realize it when all is said and done, he's been betrayed by Dedra and the ISB even after he sold out Ghorman to them, and is in a sarlacc being digested for a thousand years he'll say, "She was worth it".