Ancient Technology that may or may not be Ahead of its Time, or Even True

[XCV330]

maybe we have tiny intelligent creatures in our guts that we cannot see, who have existed long before our primative ancestors first made crude christmas toys out of saber tooth tiger bones and their own disgusting waste. when they need to communicate they cause pressure in the lower abdomen and begin to cause it to be expelled at various harmonics that then travel along etheral pathways, especially in crowded rooms and elevators. yes, that makes more sense than evolution.


seriously this entire section of the forum is a big steaming fucking joke.

 

[Will The Serious]

yes, that makes more sense than evolution.

My thoughts, even if true, do not weaken the tautology of Natural Selection. I'm just suggesting there are, in fact, sometimes the possibilities that we don't recognize ancient technology.

So sorry you think so poorly of these posts.

-Will

 

[Will The Serious]

maybe we have tiny intelligent creatures in our guts that we cannot see, who have existed long before our primative ancestors first made crude christmas toys out of saber tooth tiger bones and their own disgusting waste. when they need to communicate they cause pressure in the lower abdomen and begin to cause it to be expelled at various harmonics that then travel along etheral pathways, especially in crowded rooms and elevators.

There are, in fact, parasites that affect the behaviors of their hosts to act in very specific ways. There's a worm that parasitizes spiders. When the worm is ready to break its way out of the spider's body (like Aliens), it causes water seeking behavior in the spiders, where the worm needs to lay its eggs.

-Will

 

[Asbo Zaprudder]

seriously this entire section of the forum is a big steaming fucking joke.

Unfortunately, subjects with an historical, inherently unrepeatable basis are not readily falsifiable. Confirmation bias, religious predilection and groupthink often seem to creep into any attempt at rational discussion.

Unless someone invents a time machine, we're always going to have an element of orthodoxy opposing, ignoring and even suppressing anything that doesn't fit the narrative. On the other hand, people need to have an open mind, but perhaps not so open that their common sense falls out.

What is being increasingly amplified by the Internet is human behaviour that almost seems designed to stifle progress. I sometimes wonder if the Sophons of The Three-Body Problem are as outlandish a weapon as they seem.

 

[Will The Serious]

The Vedas are ancient Hindu texts dating back as far as 1500 BCE. I first became aware of them when in discussion in the online portion of a Calculus Analysis class. I was leading a discussion about the nature of Infinity on the back of reading Gödel's Incompleteness Theorem. The discussion led to my reading about Cantor's proof of multiple infinities, and I came across information about how Infinity was treated in the Vedas.

The Vedas support Cantor's hard won conclusion, taking it several steps further by describing never ending finite sets, such as the set of all Integers; infinite sets, such as the set of Real Numbers, and infinite sets of infinite sets, such as the set of all Imaginary numbers. Cantor proved that there were infinite sets that were larger or smaller than other infinite sets. He used a proof that was actually very similar to Gödel's Incompleteness Theorem. Both Cantor's and Gödel's concepts are reportedly found in these ancient Indian scrolls. I'm not so sure Gödel's incompleteness is there, but the idea of constructs containing models of itself are.

The sophistication of mathematics from these early times makes me wonder if Newton and Leibniz were the first inventors of Calculus. In the Vedas, from what I can remember from my very casual research, actually describe three basic types of infinities, as I touched on above. Each of these three basic categories of Infinity were further divided into the sub-categories. That's about as far as my reading had taken me. I found this in some online description of early Hindu mathematics.

I did not read the Vedas or a translation of them, just a summery of these very specific concepts. It should be understood that the Vedas are a series of texts that are primarily religious, so I can not even vouch for the accuracy of any translation. These mathematical ideas might even have been read as metaphors that some scholar took as proof of rigorous treatments of math when they may not have been. However, I see no reason to believe such scientific thinking was not the case. Certainly, if you read Bertrand Russell's A History of Western Philosophy, ancient India can be credited with significant contributions to modern maths and science.

-Will