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An old-fashioned Christmas?

Warped9

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Many people speak fondly of an old-fashioned Christmas. A Christmas supposedly of simpler times and clearer values. But, really, an old-fashioned Christmas could be a matter of perspective: one day kids of today may be speaking of what is to them an old-fashioned Christmas, hard as that might be to believe.

But what really is an old-fashioned Christmas? For myself (and perhaps for many others as well) I've envisioned scenes described by my parents and others of earlier generations. Scenes of the Great Depression with very little money or next to none to spare. Where a basket of fruit would be considered exotic and a special treat. I envision handmade decorations and tree ornaments. I envision lighted Christmas displays in only the big or biggest stores in the city and perhaps at City Hall. I envision various sized nativity scenes outside or inside local churches. For some an old-fashioned Christmas might conjure scenes of large family gatherings and friends and families visiting each other. And gift giving was a lot more scaled down to perhaps one or two things per person.

Certainly in an earlier, more economically challenged and frugal time gift giving was a lot easier than today. People had yet to know such a thing as disposable cash and credit as well as an inflated sense of entitlement. There was a time when it was much easier to buy a gift for someone and have a reasonable expectation it would be appreciated simply because most everyone you knew had little. It was easier to buy them something they'd like that they wouldn't buy themselves because they couldn't spare the money. Today it's relatively easy for many of us to go get what we want within a reasonably short period of time. Now we're faced with trying to buy someone something when it seems they already have practically everything they could want.

People talk of Christmas being over commercialized, but in truth that notion has been around for perhaps easily a century and a half. Newspaper articles and letters from the nineteenth century illustrate that clearly.

Christmas of times past are also often set in winters of deep blanketing snow without the luxury of car heaters, remote starters and quickly paved roads, if there were even cars around at all.

So what does an old-fashioned Christmas mean for you?
 
So what does an old-fashioned Christmas mean for you?

My parents told me about what christmas was like for them while they were children. They decorated trees as everyone has since time immemorial. Their christmas gifts were rarely more than a couple of pieces of fruit, a small bag of nuts, and one pocket sized toy/doll. Christmas dinner being a typical sunday roast, followed by christmas pudding. And that was about it.

So that is my concept of 'old-fashioned'.

While christmas for me has no religious significance, as I don't have any beliefs, it is still a time I greatly enjoy as part of our culture. Even all the references to nativity scenes and the carol singing, I'm happy to see, simply because it adds to the lovely christmas atmosphere.


I get the impression that as an event, christmas has become a lot more exciting over the past 100 years, compared to how it was.

For a start, we have a much more colourful take on the santa claus story nowadays, with his bright red suit with pristine fur trim. Christmas has acquired a Disney quality compared with times of old.

Our decorations are also more lavish, made possible through electric lighting, and metallic coloured plastics. When at one time it was small candles and paper chains.

Nowadays, we give and receive gifts more lavishly. Our christmas dinners also may run to several courses now. Being faced with more rich food than we can possibly eat has become part the tradition.

Modern christmas is also about television, and films, so as a family we'll lounge around in front of the television for most of the day with confectionaries and snack foods, and alcohol galore.

It is a day of indulgences.
 
Actually, my family still has an old fashioned Christmas. Basically we still follow the same traditions my mom grew up with. She has a large family. Both her parents are still alive and most of their siblings are still around. My mom has three sisters and they all have kids. Christmas at my house is a family affair, a big family affair. :lol:

Christmas eve is spent with my parents, brother, sisters and their kids. We all eat a meal together and then sit around the tree chatting or watching Christmas cartoons with the kids. Then we put the kids to bed, put out "Santa" and then go to bed ourselves. (We are piled up in my parents house like kittens in a box. :D) Then the next morning we all get up to open presents and have breakfast together. (We have an unspoken rule about only one present for each other.) Then we go to my grandparent's house for lunch and to spend the afternoon. We end up having sixty people crammed into this house together! But we have never cared that we can barely move. It is about being together, eating and chatting. I get to see cousins, aunts & uncles, great aunts & uncles, third cousins and so on... or folks I don't normally get to see during the year. My dad's family is very small. And for several years now his mom, his sister and her kids come to join the fun. (Actually dad hated Christmas until he met my mom and her very friendly, very laid back, very prolific southern family.)

And as a special touch, my grandmother still decorates her tree with ornaments she has kept since my mom was little. She also uses the handmade ornaments that her kids, grand kids and great grand kids have made over the years. Her living room is like a museum of Christmas' Past.

For us Christmas is not about giving a bunch of silly gifts (except for the Santa part). It is about getting together as a family and what food we can cook. I think I gain five pounds every year! But what makes it even more special is the fact my family actually likes each other and enjoys spending time together.
 
To me, an old fasshioned crhsistmastsasmas is sismply having a alot fo family around yhou and aenjoying the time together spend around the tree decorating it and and aenjo9yi family ftime together and open ing presants with family in one sitting anot not neccearsily worryiong about buging experience presantes and rushing parties and making fast tracks with time, but slowing down and taking time
 
So what does an old-fashioned Christmas mean for you?

I think that, like many, my visions of an old-fashioned Christmas are influenced heavily by A Christmas Carol, and the late Victorian merriment of Fezziwig's party and the final denouement of the story after Scrooge's conversion.

Other Christmas/old-fashioned parties also infect this vision - bits of Sherlock Holmes, elements of the Hobbit party scene in Fellowship, some parts of Jane Austen, and so on. Essentially something embedded in an idealised version of 18th or 19th century England.
 
To me, old-fashioned Christmas, the one I had when I was young, means lots and lots of delicious food. On the other hand, modern Christmas means lots and lots of delicious food and alcoholic beverages. Really, it hasn't changed so much for me.
 
The last really old-fashioned Christmas happened in 2001, with everyone home together with our relevant significant others (that was the sisters' area, not mine) and which was marred by some seriously bad news on Christmas Day.

We have tried to recapture the good old days in recent years, and to some extent it did work in the last two years - however, because of the travel distance I have often spent either Christmas Day or Christmas Eve driving home. Quite a surreal experience, actually.

And of course, well worth it once I get there. :)
 
There is imagery of course, but for me an old-fashioned Christmas resonates with elements of simplicity. I dislike the garish or the too shiny or too plastic like. For me an old-fashioned Christmas evokes a sense of innocence and re-awakening of childlike wonder.

When I play Santa I play on the qualities of fun and goodwill. I keep my portrayal of Santa clear of commercialism, particularly if I play him at work where I make certain that I'm not asking for anything in return but a smile and a laugh. Never do I ever try to promote anything other than cheer and good fellowship. I walk about laughing, shaking hands, handing out candy treats and wishing all Merry Christmas. And, yes, I say "Merry Christmas" or perhaps "Joyeux Noel" (I'm French Canadian and there are many around these parts) and never Happy Holidays or Seasons Greetings.

For me an old-fashioned Christmas is good humour and shared laughter. It is good food and decorating together with Christmas music playing in the background, as my parents and I have been doing gradually over the past couple of weeks. It's little surprises such as today when I gave my dad a red Christmas Tree ornament with a Montreal Canadiens logo on it, because I realized that after we'd decorated the tree last weekend I had a few of my decorations on the tree and my mother had her fairies my dad didn't have anything of his. An old-fashioned Christmas is a crisp winter day with snow on the streets and in the trees and an impulse to sing aloud.

And what do I want for Christmas this year? Something I haven't had for a long time: a white Christmas.
 
an old fashioned christmas is what every indiviual makes of it .For me ,it is the victorian times that I look to for meaning of much simpler times .
 
When I think of an 'old-fashioned' Christmas, I think of one that is pretty much free of the commercialism and unbridled consumer spending that goes on today. An 'old-fashioned' Christmas is less about 'stuff' and more about love and being together with those you love.

I think that the farther we have gotten from any spiritual significance to the holiday and the further we have gotten from any real sense of family, the more we have felt the need to fill the space and make it all about guilt-free gluttony - of food, drink, and unbridled consumerism.

I actually HATE this holiday, for that very reason. I find it tremendously sad (not to mention being a very poor commentary on our contemporary culture) to contemplate what Christmas has become.

I like Christmas as portrayed in the old movies from the early 1940s. But that is nothing like the Christmas of today.
 
An old-fashioned Christmas...When I was a kid, our Christmas was a lot like what Santa Smurf describes. We went to one grandmother on Christmas eve, the other on Christmas day...all the aunts, uncles, and cousins were there, at both places.

On the first of December, one house was chosen for all the extended family to crowd into...and the grownups would pick from a bowl which family they would give gifts to...it made things a lot easier for everyone.

On Christmas morning, my brother, sister, and I got one Santa present, one good present from Mom and Dad and one clothing present from them...then a present each from each other.

For 6 years in a row, my good present from Mom and Dad, was my wooden walking doll, freshly painted, with a new wig, and three sets of clothing Mom had made. I loved that doll. Actually, I think I loved her to her disintegration...:lol:

Our stockings held a lot of walnuts, some candy canes, and an orange...all three of us managed to gobble the orange before breakfast.

We always went to Midnight mass, and sometime during December, we went caroling.

There are times I wish we were back there, but, only my father and I remain alive, and the cousins, nieces and nephews don't seem to even enjoy the holidays. I don't think anyone but me has even put up decorations.

We used to get so many cards we used them to decorate the doorways throughout the house; now, I am the only one who even sends out Christmas cards.

sigh...yes, an old-fashioned Christmas would be very nice again.

This year, as usual, it's my cats and me, and a chicken I get from the Church food bank...I do still have to fight for my favorite bits, like the liver, but I'm fighting my cats and they don't play fair. I think I'm gonna have to get me some claws...:guffaw:
 
^ Wow, it's sounds like you have alot of really wonderful Christmas memories. That is awesome! :)

Sorry it's not that way these days with your family...but if it's any consolation, I'm not sure it is that way with very many people's families any longer. So at least you are not alone, ay?
 
I think Christmas as portrayed in old movies is a bit of myth making that in fact plays on idealized ideas of what Christmas should be. In like manner I suspect many people think of a Victorian like Christmas as a similar representation of an idealized Christmas.

Christmas has never really been completely free of a measure of consumerism. I suspect perhaps that the decline in large scale adherence to religious practices by many has made the consumerism more apparent since it isn't balanced out by religious observations.

I, in fact, am not against the notion of shopping for gifts per se. Exchanging gifts at Christmas or during many other celebrations of the past is a long accepted practice. But our modern age has fed an exaggerated sense of expectation of many that also plays on others' guilt. And businesses get that and try to capitalize on it.

I wonder if part of the resentment towards consumerism in Christmas stems from a degree of self-loathing, of privately knowing that one has surrendered to extreme consumerism and allowing oneself to be so easily manipulated.

Like in many other things I favour moderation, of keeping things in perspective. I try to resist others' unrealistic expectations and exercise a measure of control of my life and what I choose to make of it.

I think an "old-fashioned" Christmas is indeed possible in this day and age. It's possible if you focus on what matters, on celebrating what is good in the world and in your own life. Giving a gift is one way of expressing that appreciation, but it isn't the only way. And a store bought gift, particularly an expensive one, isn’t the only kind of “gift” one can give.
 
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We used to get so many cards we used them to decorate the doorways throughout the house; now, I am the only one who even sends out Christmas cards.

Not too many people send out cards anymore which I kind of miss. Nowadays it's the photo cards featuring the kids and/or the yearly "brag" letter.

Of course we're now doing a better job keeping in touch with Facebook, email, etc. so we don't need the yearly updates but it was fun to do a "Christmas card doorway".

To me an old-fashioned Christmas involves a REAL tree. Listening to my dad swear a blue streak while dealing with the tree stand was a family tradition. Now my parents are older and have an artificial tree but my sister and I insist on getting real trees when it's our turn to host. Thankfully, the tree stands are much easier to use nowadays!
 
I loved the real trees...the smell of pine all through the house, and us kids laughing as we lurched to catch the tree because Dad didn't screw the trunk into the stand exactly so...one year, he got so frustrated that he sunk one of those screw eyes into the wall and tied the tree to it...:lol:

We went to get one on December 17, because it was Mom's birthday, and it never went up til the day before Christmas eve. We'd drag it into the house, only to find out it was too big, and Dad would always have to saw off, first, some of the trunk, then some of the top, and repeat...:lol:

In this building, we aren't allowed a real tree or even a real wreath...it's a fire hazard; so everyone here has some kind of fake tree, and wreath; most go for the ceramic trees so they don't have to decorate.

We do have a community room tree...it's 6 feet tall, with fake presents under it.
 
At this moment we've got country Christmas music playing while my parents and I are are setting up the Christmas village in the living room. And we're snacking on some sweet coffee cake we bought at the groceries earlier this afternoon. AND it's snowing outside.

Feels kinda like an old-fashioned Christmas. :techman:
 
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At this moment we've got country Christmas music playing while my parents and I are are setting up the Christmas village in the living room. And we're snacking on some sweet coffee cake we bought at the groceries earlier this afternoon. AND it's snowing outside.

Wow that does sounds nice. I took the pups to the dog park and am now sitting here with the chills so it's feeling a bit like Christmas here too. ;)

Ghost: Fire hazard? What nonsense. :rolleyes:

I'm sorry you can't have a real tree. I won't have one this year myself since my parents are hosting this year and I don't bother with one the years I don't host. It's a bummer. :(
 
^^ I miss real trees, and Christmas cards. One day I'll have a real tree again.

I popped into the chapel of one of the colleges since I was teaching in the college earlier today, and they had a wonderful big decorated real tree. Proper old-fashioned Norway Spruce needle-dropper, not a more contemporary Nordmann. I had a good sniff; brought home memories of many childhood Christmases! :D
 
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