An away team come to a large ravine. Do they re-beam or use equipment to get across?

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  1. hxclespaulplayer

    hxclespaulplayer Commander Red Shirt

    Jan 27, 2008
    The only reference we've had is the rock-climbing teams in ENT and VOY, neither being horizontal gaps..
  2. matthunter

    matthunter Admiral Admiral

    Feb 17, 2004
    Great Britain
    Forcefield bridge.

    But yeah on TV they'd probably use the transporter rather than splash out on new FX.
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  3. 1001001

    1001001 Pull Up a Groove and Get Fabulous! Moderator

    Nov 3, 2001
    Danny Street
    “Away team to Enterprise. You wanna beam us down on the right side of this huge ravine? I mean, what kind of shit show are you guys running up there? Does anyone even look at the scans?”
  4. Vger23

    Vger23 Vice Admiral Admiral

    Apr 19, 2014
    Enterprise bowling alley
    I'm not sure we'll find a better answer to this question that is otherwise best left to scholars and philosophers.
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  5. The Wormhole

    The Wormhole Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Jul 23, 2001
    The Wormhole
    Realistically, it would depend on how much of a budget the episode or movie in question had.
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  6. flandry84

    flandry84 Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Jun 24, 2007
    Sunshine cottage,Lollipop lane,Latveria
    Probably some wearisome team-building,problem-solving horseshit involving materials left lying around.:brickwall:

    Do people still indulge in those kind of courses or has it gone out of fashion?
  7. USS Triumphant

    USS Triumphant Vice Admiral Admiral

    Dec 29, 2008
    Go ahead, caller. I'm listening...
    And whether Sir Patrick's representation demanded an action scene for him? ;)

    Answer: They'd jump in the Starfleet dune buggy they've ALWAYS had onboard. ;) ;)
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  8. somebuddyx

    somebuddyx Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Nov 14, 2014
    This short documentary shows why site-to-site beaming is not recommended in proximity of large ravines.
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  9. Christopher

    Christopher Writer Admiral

    Mar 15, 2001
    I think this is actually a plot beat in the TOS novel Uhura's Song by Janet Kagan. I think some characters opt to beam over and some opt to use a teetery rope bridge, or something like that.
  10. F. King Daniel

    F. King Daniel Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Nov 5, 2008
    King Daniel Beyond
    "Lifesigns detected just north of your position."

    "Beam us over."

    "No, it's only like 50ft from your position."

    "Beam. Us. Over."

    ...I'd be a very lazy captain.
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  11. Timelord Victorious

    Timelord Victorious Vice Admiral Admiral

    Feb 27, 2006
    Germany, Earth, the Solar System
    “Sorry, Away Team. We are experiencing transporter malfunctions due to an ion storm that started seconds after you beamed down. Our projections say, it’s over in 38 minutes in time for the credits. Have fun.”
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  12. MacLeod

    MacLeod Admiral Admiral

    Mar 8, 2001
    Great Britain
    You use equipment to get over to the other side of course, that equipment being the transporter, ;)
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  13. Timo

    Timo Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Aug 26, 2003
    If your away team is under the command of a geriatric idiot, you don't beam to the other side of the wall - you waste time cutting through it with your phaser.

    Apart from that, though, the heroes basically never ran into a situation where the transporter would have been an option for defeating terrain. It doesn't work in deep caves, or beyond the horizon, or inside shielded structures, or close to weird anomalies and exotic substances, or when there's high wind. Am I forgetting a case we could use to argue the ravine issue?

    Timo Saloniemi
  14. valkyrie013

    valkyrie013 Commodore Commodore

    Jun 15, 2009
    high wind, light mist.. reasons not to beam..

    Reading a book the other month.. beam us to the shore of the lake that the evil stronghold is in the middle of.. Okay crew.. how do we get there? uhh...

    Why didn't we beam in?
    "it has a scrambler and cant beam to it"
    "okay, can they send down a dingy?"
    " to big to transport"
    "I ain't swiming in there.. who knows what kind of Shark-turtle combo creature is in there"
    " as a leader.. I have to make sacrifices for the greater good.. Get in the water"
    " With all do respects.. %&$^##@ you sir, I refuse"
    "then all the inhabitansts will DIE!"
    "&$#(#&.. %&**#&#^&@ .. natives.. can't we just let these guys die.. just this once?"
    "But its dangerous!"
    " no Red shirt.. you have to go in to prove how dangerious it is"
    "fine.. but my blood is on your hands"
    gets in.. Sharkturtle grabs him and grinds him to a pulp
    " Oh.. guess its danegerous.. Someone call up for a shuttle!"
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  15. arch101

    arch101 Commodore Commodore

    May 3, 1999
    Quincy, MA
    If you have transporters, use them. Show off to any Kazon who might be watching.
  16. The Green Monster

    The Green Monster Bad Batch of TrekBBS Premium Member

    Mar 30, 2006
    I'd assume they'd scanned the terrain and downloaded the maps along with routes to their tricorders
  17. tharpdevenport

    tharpdevenport Admiral Admiral

    And then suddenly, after posters have presented rational explanations and ideas, in leaps the Evil Leaper John Logan...

    Logan: "I know -- we'll have Picard break out the 24th century dune buggy again and jump it like the General Lee!"
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  18. urbandefault

    urbandefault Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Dec 3, 2013
    Sickbay, dammit.
    From The Cage:
  19. Timo

    Timo Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Aug 26, 2003
    I guess we can deduce Pitcairn's geographical origins from his standards for "canyon"...

    Timo Saloniemi
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  20. Forbin

    Forbin Admiral Admiral

    Mar 15, 2001
    I said out, dammit!
    Beaming would be the sensible thing, but the writers would forget that and come up with some stupid vine/rope/log bridge thingie that would get a security guy killed.