An away team come to a large ravine. Do they re-beam or use equipment to get across?

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  1. hxclespaulplayer

    hxclespaulplayer Commander Red Shirt

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    The only reference we've had is the rock-climbing teams in ENT and VOY, neither being horizontal gaps..
     
  2. matthunter

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    Forcefield bridge.

    But yeah on TV they'd probably use the transporter rather than splash out on new FX.
     
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  3. 1001001

    1001001 Pull Up a Groove and Get Fabulous! Moderator

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    “Away team to Enterprise. You wanna beam us down on the right side of this huge ravine? I mean, what kind of shit show are you guys running up there? Does anyone even look at the scans?”
     
  4. Vger23

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    I'm not sure we'll find a better answer to this question that is otherwise best left to scholars and philosophers.
     
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  5. The Wormhole

    The Wormhole Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Realistically, it would depend on how much of a budget the episode or movie in question had.
     
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  6. flandry84

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    Probably some wearisome team-building,problem-solving horseshit involving materials left lying around.:brickwall:

    Do people still indulge in those kind of courses or has it gone out of fashion?
     
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    And whether Sir Patrick's representation demanded an action scene for him? ;)

    Answer: They'd jump in the Starfleet dune buggy they've ALWAYS had onboard. ;) ;)
     
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  8. somebuddyx

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    This short documentary shows why site-to-site beaming is not recommended in proximity of large ravines.
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  9. Christopher

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    I think this is actually a plot beat in the TOS novel Uhura's Song by Janet Kagan. I think some characters opt to beam over and some opt to use a teetery rope bridge, or something like that.
     
  10. F. King Daniel

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    "Lifesigns detected just north of your position."

    "Beam us over."

    "No, it's only like 50ft from your position."

    "Beam. Us. Over."

    ...I'd be a very lazy captain.
     
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  11. Timelord Victorious

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    “Sorry, Away Team. We are experiencing transporter malfunctions due to an ion storm that started seconds after you beamed down. Our projections say, it’s over in 38 minutes in time for the credits. Have fun.”
     
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  12. MacLeod

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    You use equipment to get over to the other side of course, that equipment being the transporter, ;)
     
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  13. Timo

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    If your away team is under the command of a geriatric idiot, you don't beam to the other side of the wall - you waste time cutting through it with your phaser.

    Apart from that, though, the heroes basically never ran into a situation where the transporter would have been an option for defeating terrain. It doesn't work in deep caves, or beyond the horizon, or inside shielded structures, or close to weird anomalies and exotic substances, or when there's high wind. Am I forgetting a case we could use to argue the ravine issue?

    Timo Saloniemi
     
  14. valkyrie013

    valkyrie013 Commodore Commodore

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    high wind, light mist.. reasons not to beam..

    Reading a book the other month.. beam us to the shore of the lake that the evil stronghold is in the middle of.. Okay crew.. how do we get there? uhh...

    Why didn't we beam in?
    "it has a scrambler and cant beam to it"
    "okay, can they send down a dingy?"
    " to big to transport"
    "I ain't swiming in there.. who knows what kind of Shark-turtle combo creature is in there"
    " as a leader.. I have to make sacrifices for the greater good.. Get in the water"
    " With all do respects.. %&$^##@ you sir, I refuse"
    "then all the inhabitansts will DIE!"
    "&$#(#&.. %&**#&#^&@ .. natives.. can't we just let these guys die.. just this once?"
    "No"
    "But its dangerous!"
    " no Red shirt.. you have to go in to prove how dangerious it is"
    "...."
    "Go"
    "fine.. but my blood is on your hands"
    "fine"
    gets in.. Sharkturtle grabs him and grinds him to a pulp
    " Oh.. guess its danegerous.. Someone call up for a shuttle!"
     
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  15. arch101

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    If you have transporters, use them. Show off to any Kazon who might be watching.
     
  16. The Green Monster

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    I'd assume they'd scanned the terrain and downloaded the maps along with routes to their tricorders
     
  17. tharpdevenport

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    And then suddenly, after posters have presented rational explanations and ideas, in leaps the Evil Leaper John Logan...

    Logan: "I know -- we'll have Picard break out the 24th century dune buggy again and jump it like the General Lee!"
     
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  19. Timo

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    I guess we can deduce Pitcairn's geographical origins from his standards for "canyon"...

    Timo Saloniemi
     
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  20. Forbin

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    Beaming would be the sensible thing, but the writers would forget that and come up with some stupid vine/rope/log bridge thingie that would get a security guy killed.