Amanda…Grayson? And her career

[ZapBrannigan]

Spock must have really listened to his mother, because in "Dagger of the Mind," he packed two incorrect statements into one sentence:

SPOCK: We disposed of emotion, Doctor. Where there is no emotion, there is no motive for violence.

That said, I love Early Installment Weirdness in TOS. It often doesn't fit with the smoother productions that followed, but it takes me back to a time when practically the whole Star Trek universe was unwritten and wide open. It was new. The spots where it was unpolished are charming. That's partly why I enjoy "Mudd's Women", "Charlie X", and "Miri" so much, even though others here often rate them poorly.

 

[VSAFaculty]

Spock must have really listened to his mother, because in "Dagger of the Mind," he packed two incorrect statements into one sentence:


That said, I love Early Installment Weirdness in TOS. It often doesn't fit with the smoother productions that followed, but it takes me back to a time when practically the whole Star Trek universe was unwritten and wide open. It was new. The spots where it was unpolished are charming. That's partly why I enjoy "Mudd's Women", "Charlie X", and "Miri" so much, even though others here often rate them poorly.

It’s so easy to forget that no one knew 50+ years ago that people would be watching now - much less critiquing it - or even that the whole Star Trek phenomenon would occur. There’s probably no other show that’s been put under the proverbial microscope to the same degree.

 

[lyncat]

You may be correct about ‘Yesteryear’!

AO3 is Archive of Our Own, a huge online fanfic site for nearly any show that you can think of.

Agree with what you say about the over the top roles given to the characters. In some fanfic, everyone is an admiral. Uhura wasn’t even on the command track like Chekhov and Sulu. And I know about JarJar Abrams’ interpretation. Awful. Not the relationship itself, but the way it was portrayed.

Uhuura may not have been on the command track, but she was able to take the center seat if necessary. I believe she did in the animated series.

 

[Brennyren]

Uhuura may not have been on the command track, but she was able to take the center seat if necessary. I believe she did in the animated series.

She took command at least once, in "The Lorelei Signal." Well, technically she mutinied, since Scott neither ceded command nor was formally relieved, but under the circumstances one could hardly hold it against her. And she did a fine, credible job of saving the day, too.

 

[Poltargyst]

Uhura figuratively took the center seat in the sense that she was clearly in command, but we never actually see her sitting in the command chair.

 

[publiusr]

It’s so easy to forget that no one knew 50+ years ago that people would be watching now - much less critiquing it .

The lies we tell ourselves can sometimes serve as a touchstones---something to guide us.

 

[Denise]

I’ll always have the Jane Wyatt version in my head.

There are some great "portraits" of Sarek and Amanda in the early days of their marriage on Deviant Art. (They use Mark Lenard and Jane Wyatt as the couple.

 

[Denise]

Spock must have really listened to his mother, because in "Dagger of the Mind," he packed two incorrect statements into one sentence:


That said, I love Early Installment Weirdness in TOS. It often doesn't fit with the smoother productions that followed, but it takes me back to a time when practically the whole Star Trek universe was unwritten and wide open. It was new. The spots where it was unpolished are charming. That's partly why I enjoy "Mudd's Women", "Charlie X", and "Miri" so much, even though others here often rate them poorly.

Spock was being contrary. He always exaggerates these things when he responds to McCoy.

 

[VSAFaculty]

There are some great "portraits" of Sarek and Amanda in the early days of their marriage on Deviant Art. (They use Mark Lenard and Jane Wyatt as the couple.

Oh, yes, I know exactly what you’re talking about! Karracaz is the artist.

My personal favorite (it probably won’t come up):

https://www.deviantart.com/karracaz/art/Licence-To-Negotiate-163730923

 

[Denise]

Oh, yes, I know exactly what you’re talking about! Karracaz is the artist.

My personal favorite (it probably won’t come up):

https://www.deviantart.com/karracaz/art/Licence-To-Negotiate-163730923

This is the one I was thinking of: https://www.deviantart.com/karracaz/art/Love-Under-the-Vulcan-Sun-201901369

 

[VSAFaculty]

This is the one I was thinking of: https://www.deviantart.com/karracaz/art/Love-Under-the-Vulcan-Sun-201901369

I wish she’d made them a lot younger in that one.

 

[Planxty]

I think "Grayson" came from a TAS episode, probably "Yesteryear." I don't know what AO3 is.

Post-TOS fiction in general has a tendency to over-extend the importance of TOS-established characters. One of Shatner's novels had Chekov become the Grand Poobah of All Starfleet. Post-TOS Uhura is often supposed to be a tech ultra-super-genius, and in the case of JJ-Trek, she's also sex partner to that well-known horndog, Mr. Spock .

I'm not surprised to hear fan-fic Amanda supposedly invented the universal translator, and if not her, surely Uhura would have thought of it.

All I know is my ex girlfriend, born in the late 70s was (by her mother’s admission) was named Amanda for Amanda Grayson, so TAS still tracks,

fun fact when we were first dating she was all “I was named after a Star Trek character, bet you can’t guess,.,”. “SPOCK’S MOM”