Am i the only one missing the D Quadrant races from Treklit?
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Although they were dull as ditchwater on the show, I'd like to know what became of the Kazon. It's been about a decade since we saw them last, and Chakotay did leave them with a fully-functioning (although computer wiped) Starfleet shuttlecraft. A shuttle with phasers, a transporter and probably a replicator...
To be fair, the Hirogen and the Malon both manage to show up now and then (both of them in Gateways: Demons of Air and Darkness, the Malon in Q and A, the Hirogen in Destiny). And the Nyrians of all people featured in Gateways: Doors Into Chaos. So even outside the Voyager Relaunch the established Delta Quadrant races haven't been forgotten. They're still a part of the tapestry; simply a part that can't be used very often. As for Voyager, the latest books have brought the New Talaxian colonists back into the picture as a semi-regular, if so far minor, part of the series.
Not really. Generally I found Voyager dull, and there weren't really many races worthy of reutlilising in treklit.
I mean I liked the Hirogen(since they were just Predators) and the Voth(reminded me of the Silurians and the Clan Ru), but for a seven series show there wasn't much of interest. I think a Voth re-encounter would be the only thing I'd pay for.
I mean I liked the Hirogen(since they were just Predators) and the Voth(reminded me of the Silurians and the Clan Ru), but for a seven series show there wasn't much of interest. I think a Voth re-encounter would be the only thing I'd pay for.
No, I don't read Voyager books, and since it was part of a collection I didn't pick up on its specific existence.
I see it was in "Distant Shores". Is it good, and how many pages of the anthology is it? Don't really want to subject myself to the Voyager crew, but if it's a fun story...
I see it was in "Distant Shores". Is it good, and how many pages of the anthology is it? Don't really want to subject myself to the Voyager crew, but if it's a fun story...
I revisited the Voth not only in "Brief Candle" in Distant Shores, but in Places of Exile in Myriad Universes: Infinity's Prism.
Not much. The Borg ignored them. U have to be darn pathetic as a species for the Borg to think u are not worth killing or assimilating.
And none of those things can be operated without a computer, which was the point of wiping it. They might be able to rig some manual way of firing the phasers, but they're just as likely to blow themselves up trying, without a computer to explain the physics and engineering to them. And given all the processing power required to track and manipulate the trillions of particles in a material object, a transporter or replicator would just be a very large paperweight without a working computer.
Then again, I've always thought that whatever mechanism a transporter uses to disassemble matter would make a hell of a disintegrator gun if you just turned off the reassembly stage. I mean, Voyager's transporters can beam up shuttlecraft in a matter of seconds, so they can easily disintegrate even the densest, strongest parts of a starship. So in theory, if you could just mount the beam generator on a turret and install an on-off switch, you could have a really deadly weapon (against anything without deflector shields, at least). Yet nobody in the Trek universe seems to have adapted transporter technology into a weapon (the teleportation gun in "Gambit" doesn't count, since it essentially just "paints a target" and remotely activates the ship's transporter to beam it up). So there must be some reason why the effect can't be adapted in that way.
^ You have to have a target to lock onto with a transporter. It might not be possible to lock onto a piece of the ship's hull in that way.
Seska's time with the Kazon and their brief takeover of the ship was probably the best bet for them to skip a few steps on the technology ladder. She also was revealed to have been flat out giving them technology while she was still on Voyager's crew. They had plenty of exposure on which to capitalize, and Maje Culluh was still alive to regroup.
Seeing the supposedly cured Vidiians, or finding them to have been swindled by the 'Think Tank' would be of interest to me.
Seeing the supposedly cured Vidiians, or finding them to have been swindled by the 'Think Tank' would be of interest to me.
Wow, I wouldn't find it interesting at all to bring them back unchanged. I'd be much more interested in seeing what they become after being cured.
Those sort of swindles aren't really the Think Tank's thing, anyway. Their entire motive is advancing their knowledge; they solve problems for the sake of testing that knowledge and acquiring more of it. Oh, and getting paid, can't forget that, but the payments they demand are also about increasing their knowledge, so it all comes back to that, really. 
The phage was no doubt an interesting problem to be solved; that was their angle. It wasn't a humanitarian effort, but about the puzzle of the cure. So that's a lure right there that would make them truly committed to curing it - it's just the sort of thing that would intrigue them. An interesting test. Unless the Vidiians had something even more intriguing than the phage which the Think Tank could demand in payment - which seems very unlikely - I don't see them giving it any less than their full, honest attention. Why would they pull of a scam?
On that note: bring back the Think Tank! I always the loved the idea that these smarmy, dangerously self-serving minor villains actually saved an entire civilization in an off-hand sort of way.
The phage was no doubt an interesting problem to be solved; that was their angle. It wasn't a humanitarian effort, but about the puzzle of the cure. So that's a lure right there that would make them truly committed to curing it - it's just the sort of thing that would intrigue them. An interesting test. Unless the Vidiians had something even more intriguing than the phage which the Think Tank could demand in payment - which seems very unlikely - I don't see them giving it any less than their full, honest attention. Why would they pull of a scam? On that note: bring back the Think Tank! I always the loved the idea that these smarmy, dangerously self-serving minor villains actually saved an entire civilization in an off-hand sort of way.
Being swindled does not have to mean they are unchanged. There could be strings attached to the cure, partial success, or all kinds of things to make it interesting. I agree that depicting them as a pure menace would not be interesting.
The episode where the Vidiian woman was able to use a holographic avatar was one of my favorites of the series; I always wanted to see more of them after that.
Missed your post while I replied to Christopher.
You're right. 'Swindle' probably was not the most accurate word for what I had in mind. I think their solution to the Phage could have been less perfect than what they presented to the Voyager crew...maybe the solution was something more akin to the TNG episode 'Symbiosis'.
Overall, I just think they were underused. Of Delta Quadrant races I want to see again, the Vidiians top my list in whatever shape they are in now. Even the "Alms for an ex-leper" angle has potential.
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