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Alternate ways Voyager could have gotten home.

But it's really a moot point since the route that was taken did--when all is said and done--get the Voyager home and in one piece in only seven years. Comparatively, the Voyager would still be decades away from home if they tried to go through wormwhole in the Gamma Quadrant, regardless of the political climate there...

I thought the point of the thread was to point out alternate routes home for Voyager and the Bajoran wormhole is a viable solution, they could just as easily as have gotten home in seven years no matter which route they took, the show any show will always move at the speed of plot, no matter how big or impossible a show's mission be barring being cancelled it'll end when it's supposed to end.
By that criteria, though, it really wouldn't have mattered what direction the Voyager took, so they might as well aim for home instead of another distant part of the Galaxy...

Finn said:
And for all we know, there is a much more dangerous region between Ocampa and Dominion Space. They might have been better off traveling through Borg space.
There's that possibility too. The Voyager could have run up on something even worse than either the Borg or the Dominion going that way.

Janeway rolled the dice out there and won.
 
By that criteria, though, it really wouldn't have mattered what direction the Voyager took, so they might as well aim for home instead of another distant part of the Galaxy...

That's one of the pluses of wormhole travel you don't need to travel in a straight line.
 
By that criteria, though, it really wouldn't have mattered what direction the Voyager took, so they might as well aim for home instead of another distant part of the Galaxy...

That's one of the pluses of wormhole travel you don't need to travel in a straight line.
The things that Janeway was counting on finding on the direct route were wormholes, spatial rifts, and other new technologies that could further the Voyager along home...which ultimately is what happened.
 
By that criteria, though, it really wouldn't have mattered what direction the Voyager took, so they might as well aim for home instead of another distant part of the Galaxy...

That's one of the pluses of wormhole travel you don't need to travel in a straight line.
The things that Janeway was counting on finding on the direct route were wormholes, spatial rifts, and other new technologies that could further the Voyager along home...which ultimately is what happened.

And the Bajoran wormhole is just that a wormhole. They didn't in the end find anything to shorten their way home it was handed to them by future Janeway without her technology they'd still be there along with Kes's push. And I still say the Bajoran wormhole is a viable way home and again I say the idea of the thread is discuss alternate routes home and the wormhole is an alternate route home.
 
That's one of the pluses of wormhole travel you don't need to travel in a straight line.
The things that Janeway was counting on finding on the direct route were wormholes, spatial rifts, and other new technologies that could further the Voyager along home...which ultimately is what happened.

And the Bajoran wormhole is just that a wormhole. They didn't in the end find anything to shorten their way home it was handed to them by future Janeway without her technology they'd still be there along with Kes's push.
Still doesn't change the fact that Janeway was proven right by going the direct route.
And I still say the Bajoran wormhole is a viable way home and again I say the idea of the thread is discuss alternate routes home and the wormhole is an alternate route home.
Just not necessarily the best way home.
 
I'm sure the Voyager crew would have felt it was the right decision if they _had_ travelled to the Bajoran wormhole...only to find that it didn't exist anymore, for one reason or another.
 
What they schould have done is had all 160 crew members take the aray and send the aray back with them on board
 
She could have also done a time warp ala Star Trek IV when they were in Earth's past in Future's End." Or would Braxton have blown them away to keep them from doing that?
 
Or would Braxton have blown them away to keep them from doing that?

One would think so. But on the other hand, they did get to keep the mobile emitter...

Heck, Janeway could always have argued that if they were allowed to get home, Voyager would no longer have to spend so much time fiddling with time travel, so it would be in the future Starfleet's best interest to let them do just that. :p
 
They didn't in the end find anything to shorten their way home

Um, they got halfway through a 70-year journey in seven years. Why wouldn't that count as "something to shorten their way"?

Really, probably the very last thing Janeway did on the Alpha quadrant before departing DS9 was to have a raktajino-and-crumpets chat with Sisko. You know, the guy who had just last week vowed to blow the wormhole to kingdom come at the first sight of the ugly faces of the Dominion minions.

Alternate ways to get home: stay put at the Ocampa system and bravely fight the Kazon. Defeat the villains. Gain the admiration of their Trabe enslavers. Ally with the Trabe. Sail home, perhaps in 70 years but also in the perfect safety and comfort of a fleet of dozens of Trabe juggernauts. Have the Trabe sign a membership form. The UFP now spans most of the galaxy, with militarily potent allies at the other end.

Timo Saloniemi
 
In False Prophets, I would have had halfway decent security that would actually search the Ferengi for weapons. I would also by that point have placed guards in the shuttle bay to prevent Ferengi nincompoops from stealing a shuttle and destabilizing the Barzan wormhole. Tuvok should have been ripped a new one over that.
 
I'm sure the Voyager crew would have felt it was the right decision if they _had_ travelled to the Bajoran wormhole...only to find that it didn't exist anymore, for one reason or another.
If you remember, in "By inferno's light" the Bashir Changeling sabotaged the wormhole destroyer beam thing so that it strengthened the wormhole making it impossible to deliberately collapse so I doubt it would happen naturally.
 
^Yes, that.

Additionally, I'm pretty sure if it served the writers' purposes they could find a way to collapse the wormhole no matter what was said previously.
 
What about the micro wormhole that led to Romulan space that was 20ish? years in the past; they could all have beamed through, gone into Federation space in secret and gone into stasis until after they left, leaving Voyager on self destruct back in the Delta Quadrant.
 
Yes beam them all into Romulan space from 20 years ago.

The next thing we know Federation space is invaded by a Romulan force commanded by the sons and daughters of Voyagers crew alá Sela.
 
Ok, build a giant rubber band, about... 3 AU across. Then, wrap it between a couple of planets, stick Voyager into it, have it reverse impulse, then cut impulse thrust, and WHAM! They'll be back in the Alpha Quadrant before you can say "ACME Corporation".
 
Inspired by this comment here from this rather brilliant thread, I thought it might be interesting to put on our thinking caps and compile a list of alternate ways Voyager could have gotten home (for better or worse).
Hey, thanks for the compliment, Gep Malakai. I'm pleased to see that my intial thread helped spawn a thread such as this one -- covering the same issue, but in a greater scope. The extended exchange between DWF and C.E. Evans debating the pros and cons of heading toward Earth vs. heading toward the Bajoran wormhole was particularly intriguing.

What really rubbed me the wrong way about the show was how they never really acknowledged that there were, indeed, other ways to get home (than just simply flying toward Earth). The Barzan wormhole was an option; the Bajoran wormhole was an option. I would've liked to have seen the writers acknowledge these other routes home. At least have a scene showing them debating which direction might be the best.

Personally, I think the first goal of the series should've been for Voyager to seek out the Barzan wormhole. It would've made sense considering A) they obviously knew what it was, and B) ended up coming across it anyway on their route to Earth. Why not just have them acknowledge that the Barzan wormhole was their first option home to begin with? I mean, to me, it would've been irresponsible not to seek out the Barzan wormhole. From a drama standpoint, it would've added a greater sense of realism to the show right from the get-go.

And imagine their dismay when, perhaps in a more serious version of "False Profits" (sans Ferengi), they find out, say, that the Barzan wormhole is completely unstable... and they now must commit to flying all the way back to Earth.

That would've been an incredibly dark, low point in the series. :cool:
 
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