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Altered future.

JcarlA

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Not sure if anyone has brought this up, but I wonder if Discovery's departure from her time has caused the future they arrived in to be an altered timeline ? A past example would be the events that occurred when the Enterprise C travelled into the future.
 
Thanks you've reminded me of the discussion Kirk and Spock had in TOS Tomorrow Is Yesterday !! They talk about the possible actions of Captain Christopher's offspring.
 
It's like making AGT, Visitor, or Endgame a whole season - I like that
I really want a Short Trek or something about the Enterprise in "Parallels" where the Borg have destroyed the Federation.

Also in "Parallels" they prove Worf is from a different reality by discovering that his RNA has an unusual quantum signature.
I had assumed that DIS invented this for Space Hitler
 
Assuming it's "a" USS Discovery in the nebula...

This "sort of" ties in with an idea I had, What if Discovery arrived in the future and found it was still wiped out, then traveled back in time (arriving after they left for the future) to fix it, producing the timeline we see. And the Discover in Calipso is that "1st" Discovery. It doesn't really tie in with how star trek usually does time changes, but in City on the Edge of Forever the landing party wasn't impacted by McCoy's change to the timeline... so maybe being in the worm-hole did something similar for Discovery.

Or maybe it's a Discovery from another reality that jumped across (spore drive) to keep the sphere data out of the hands of Control from their universe... basically a dimensional incursion that produced the timeline we see.
 
Assuming it's "a" USS Discovery in the nebula...

This "sort of" ties in with an idea I had, What if Discovery arrived in the future and found it was still wiped out, then traveled back in time (arriving after they left for the future) to fix it, producing the timeline we see. And the Discover in Calipso is that "1st" Discovery. It doesn't really tie in with how star trek usually does time changes, but in City on the Edge of Forever the landing party wasn't impacted by McCoy's change to the timeline... so maybe being in the worm-hole did something similar for Discovery.

Or maybe it's a Discovery from another reality that jumped across (spore drive) to keep the sphere data out of the hands of Control from their universe... basically a dimensional incursion that produced the timeline we see.
I like the last idea as if it is a time + reality jump it would explain why there is no crew as they would phase out like Georgiou
 
So.. Again stargate.. This time atlantis..
With the first expedition getting killed and Elizabeth going back in time and fixing it so the city doesn't totally run out of power so the expedition can raise the city. And now I have 2 Elizabeth.
 
So.. Again stargate.. This time atlantis..
With the first expedition getting killed and Elizabeth going back in time and fixing it so the city doesn't totally run out of power so the expedition can raise the city. And now I have 2 Elizabeth.

if it works.... SGI-1 did it twice -in the same episode-
 
Not sure if anyone has brought this up, but I wonder if Discovery's departure from her time has caused the future they arrived in to be an altered timeline ? A past example would be the events that occurred when the Enterprise C travelled into the future.
It doesn't really work.

Discovery left 2258. The Burn doesn't happen until circa 3068. Dilitihium didn't start to run out until 100 years before The Burn. Let's call it 2970.

I don't care how good of a ship Discovery is, no way would it still be in service in 2970. And no way would any of the crew live that long. So, I don't think Discovery leaving the 23rd Century has anything to do with causing The Burn.

That would be Red Meat for people who hate the show. "See? Discovery caused The Burn! Michael Burnham caused The Burn!" They'd love that because it gives them ammunition. So I'm hoping that's not it.
 
Not sure if anyone has brought this up, but I wonder if Discovery's departure from her time has caused the future they arrived in to be an altered timeline ? A past example would be the events that occurred when the Enterprise C travelled into the future.
It's the "prime future" of the Star Trek universe... until it isn't (like every other aspect of Star Trek canon/continuity).

I mean if you're going to bring up that old argument, it's possible everything after the film Star Trek First Contact was in fact a alternate timeline; and all the shows and episodes in Star Trek Voyager, Deep Space Nine; and Enterprise, and all subsequent TNG Star Trek filmstook place in that alternate timeline (which again was different from everything we saw in TOS and TNG from 1966-1994.) :angel::wtf::shrug:
 
It's the "prime future" of the Star Trek universe... until it isn't (like every other aspect of Star Trek canon/continuity).

I mean if you're going to bring up that old argument, it's possible everything after the film Star Trek First Contact was in fact a alternate timeline; and all the shows and episodes in Star Trek Voyager, Deep Space Nine; and Enterprise, and all subsequent TNG Star Trek filmstook place in that alternate timeline (which again was different from everything we saw in TOS and TNG from 1966-1994.) :angel::wtf::shrug:
I do have a lot of time for that theory, ST8 leads to ENT leads to DIS. The events of ENT Regeneration could not occur if not for the events of ST8. I.E. - new timeline.
 
It's the "prime future" of the Star Trek universe... until it isn't (like every other aspect of Star Trek canon/continuity).

I mean if you're going to bring up that old argument, it's possible everything after the film Star Trek First Contact was in fact a alternate timeline; and all the shows and episodes in Star Trek Voyager, Deep Space Nine; and Enterprise, and all subsequent TNG Star Trek filmstook place in that alternate timeline (which again was different from everything we saw in TOS and TNG from 1966-1994.) :angel::wtf::shrug:
Oof, yeah, you could say that. Whatever helps people sleep at night I guess...:shrug:
 
Not sure if anyone has brought this up, but I wonder if Discovery's departure from her time has caused the future they arrived in to be an altered timeline ? A past example would be the events that occurred when the Enterprise C travelled into the future.

I operate under the assumption that this is one of several altered timelines and there is another timeline where Spock never had a foster sister, Burnham’s parents were never killed and there was no time traveling Gabrielle or Control, etc. The Temporal Cold War probably altered things beyond the recognition of the original Enterprise crew.
 
I operate under the assumption that this is one of several altered timelines and there is another timeline where Spock never had a foster sister, Burnham’s parents were never killed and there was no time traveling Gabrielle or Control, etc. The Temporal Cold War probably altered things beyond the recognition of the original Enterprise crew.
Not sure of the episode title, but Discovery (2nd season) covered the possiblity that Michael was to die as a young child before the RED ANGEL interveined. I personally took this to be what occurred in the prime timeline. And why Spock never spoke of her.
 
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