Spoilers All Things STAR WARS - News, Speculation & Spoilers Thread
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Long enough for the plot that requires it.
I know that's a typo, but it still gave me the mental image of Sebulba as a Twitch streamer. The horror . . .
Four legs, one race helmet.
I look forward to the porn that will be inspired by this sentence.
Starring Sebulba and Gasgano.
Mads Mikkelsen, Death Star Architect, Helps Brother, Grand Admiral Thrawn, Build Lego Death Star
The 'Rogue One' star teamed up with fellow 'Star Wars' actor Lars Mikkelsen for the construction.
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You know, it really is a little scary how hard it's gotten to be to tell what's practical and what's CGI these days. There were a lot of sets and things there that I had assumed were practical, but it turns out were mostly CGI. The one that shocked me was the Falcon on Jakku, I had always assumed it was a practical full sized Falcon. If than can build one for Galaxy's Edge, I wouldn't think it would have been that hard to build one for the movies.
I joke that the breakthrough visual effects technique that should've been recognized by the 2015 visual effects Oscar was "lying." The Force Awakens and Fury Road both had ostentatiously false publicity campaigns about how they did everything for real, no CGI, blah, blah, bullshit, bullshit. The "No CGI is Invisible CGI" series on YouTube goes into that phenomena quite a bit, and there are plenty of howlers in the industry. Like, there's one about a motorcycle stunt by the Rock in Jumani, and it shows behind-the-scenes footage of him riding a motorcycle up a ramp on a greenscreen stage in a fairly weightless ramp jump, cross cut with the final scene in the movie where the entire thing, including the Rock and his motorcycle, is clearly animated and zooming around every which way, while the narration is talking about, oh, we're just gonna use the computer for a little embellishment, paint out some cables and harnesses, it's all going to be totally real.
The thing that gets me is that they had the standalone boarding ramp on the location, but they didn't even position it for the shot, you can see it's off behind and facing the other way from where they dropped the Falcon in. It makes sense, Rey and Finn don't actually walk up the ramp in the wide shot, and it was probably positioned for better lighting and access for shots where they were interacting with it, but if I had been doing the VFX, I would've appreciated having the physical ramp in the right place for reference.
They did build a full-sized Falcon for other scenes in the sequel trilogy, I think it really depends on how much they were going to be doing outside the ship in a given setup, and if that's going to justify the cost of transporting and building such a large setpiece. For Jakku, you just see it landed in the distance and a close-up going on the ramp before it takes off. They did build/assemble a complete Falcon for Ahch-to in The Last Jedi since there are a lot of scenes of Rey and Chewie hanging around near the ship. TFA had a partial Falcon they used for shots at the Resistance base and Maz's castle.
When I lived in California, one of the fringe benefits was that ILM, Pixar, and Sony Animation would give their talks for the big annual SIGGRAPH conference to the local chapters, so I got to see a lot of non-public behind-the-scenes footage and breakdowns from TFA and Rogue One (among others). One of my favorite things that couldn't be dropped in a reel like this because it needed too much explaining was that there's a shot at floor-level of BB-8 rolling through Maz's castle soon after they arrive, surrounded by the legs of all the patrons. They realized in editing that he was going right-to-left, but to match the action, they needed him going left-to-right, and they couldn't just mirror the shot because BB-8's panels and paint are asymmetrical.
Luckily, they shot blank backgrounds and lighting reference (the little rainbow chart and the chrome ball) for every single camera setup they did in the movie, so they had perfect data to drop in a properly-oriented CG BB-8 that was indistinguishable from the physical one (also, BB-8 was CG a lot more than they implied in the publicity; IIRC, they didn't even have the autonomous BB-8 until after they finished shooting the movie, so even in shots where he's "real," there's a puppeteer pushing him along with a sort of hand-truck that had to be removed).
That's become SOP. I remember a breakdown for Black Widow where people were incredulous that a shot of two characters talking in a bar was a greenscreen effect; it was almost certainly the same case, they shot the bar backgrounds when they filmed the scene originally, so they could shoot pickups on a greenscreen if they wanted to change or add anything later and the new material would match seamlessly, rather than the old trick of just recording new dialog and editing the scene so you don't see the mouth of the character speaking when they're saying the new lines.
I don't recall that... the thing is, there's lying and then there's lying. Some lies at least have a veneer of believability. "We made a modern Star Wars movie without CGI" would not be one of them. No idea why anyone would even go there.
Harrison Ford suffered a broken leg when the ramp fell on him. You can't get that from a bunch of ones and zeroes!
As @David cgc said, they did build one, just not for that shot.
Good grief. We have this whole back and forth over the Star Wars SEs vs. the originals. Do you notice what George never messed with? That Force awful matte painting of the Falcon in Return of the Jedi. Because George vetoed getting the ESB Falcon (that they had) into place for that scene. "Use a painting. No one will be able to tell." <-- Paraphrase.
I grow weary of "You can just TELL that it's CG!" Yes, you can tell the 40 foot monster is CG. Probably. There is SO much CG that you cannot tell is CG.
Good FX are still good FX and bad FX are still bad FX no matter how they were produced.
Rogue One was actually when I decided the fight was over. Is it still cool / useful / good to build things and do real stunts? YES. But it's never that simple.
That is one of my favorite things ever. I like my kids better. But I did have to check.
Hey, I don't have a problem with CGI at all, I love how much it's opened up what shows and movies can do visually now. I didn't mean it was a bad thing that it's hard to tell what is and isn't CGI, it was just neutral comment. I've always been fascinated by special effects, and honestly, if I was more artistically talented, I might have even gone into it as profession.
Merry Christmas and Happy Life Day!
I thought that was November 17th? But you as well.
Life Day cannot be contained in a single day.
May your living room porn be as fulfilling for you as it was for Itchy. Happy Life Day.
i wonder if the star wars universe celebrates xmas
as in do jedis siths wookies hutts and the many other aliens and humanoids in the star wars universe celebrate christmas
as in do jedis siths wookies hutts and the many other aliens and humanoids in the star wars universe celebrate christmas
Why would people who lived a long time ago in a galaxy far far away celebrate something originating on Earth?