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Spoilers All Things STAR WARS - News, Speculation & Spoilers Thread

oktay said:
I think the show has damaged the universe in terms of quality. Beyond that, I think the quality of work produced in the Star Wars universe is poor. In general, I think animated Star Wars shows are better than live-action works.
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Here's the thing, and I am not posting as an attack, because what I am about to say goes for many people on the forum, and the internet.
You have an opinion, and that's fine. I have them as well. But too many people walk around saying 'I think this about such, and that means I am right'.
None of the shows have damaged the universe. Only expanded it. Now, expansion always has many effects, some good, some bad. We build houses, that's awesome. And roads, we need them. Also has a negative influence on nature and wildlife. Kinda sucks.
The shows, by definition, weren't bad. They were all different. And people got different things from them. Some I enjoyed, others less. The ones I liked were disliked by others and vice versa. The shows have some fans to walk away from Star Wars. Others actually got to know Star Wars through these shows.
 
Mage said:
Here's the thing, and I am not posting as an attack, because what I am about to say goes for many people on the forum, and the internet.
You have an opinion, and that's fine. I have them as well. But too many people walk around saying 'I think this about such, and that means I am right'.
None of the shows have damaged the universe. Only expanded it. Now, expansion always has many effects, some good, some bad. We build houses, that's awesome. And roads, we need them. Also has a negative influence on nature and wildlife. Kinda sucks.
The shows, by definition, weren't bad. They were all different. And people got different things from them. Some I enjoyed, others less. The ones I liked were disliked by others and vice versa. The shows have some fans to walk away from Star Wars. Others actually got to know Star Wars through these shows.
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you are right.
 
Mage said:
Here's the thing, and I am not posting as an attack, because what I am about to say goes for many people on the forum, and the internet.
You have an opinion, and that's fine. I have them as well. But too many people walk around saying 'I think this about such, and that means I am right'.
None of the shows have damaged the universe. Only expanded it. Now, expansion always has many effects, some good, some bad. We build houses, that's awesome. And roads, we need them. Also has a negative influence on nature and wildlife. Kinda sucks.
The shows, by definition, weren't bad. They were all different. And people got different things from them. Some I enjoyed, others less. The ones I liked were disliked by others and vice versa. The shows have some fans to walk away from Star Wars. Others actually got to know Star Wars through these shows.
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This.

And having gone through a similar experience with people who love the Prequels or were introduced to Star Wars by the Ewok films still enjoy Star Wars.

Nothing ruined or damaged. Just new.
 
FredH said:
I really don’t understand why people apparently see The Acolyte as bad. It’s a dark show with characters more complex than Good/Evil, if that’s what people object to, but to my mind that’s very much a feature, not a bug. And nobody seemed to mind that, over on Andor.
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You "really don't understand" that some people see a vast difference in the writing quality? I'm not asking if you agree there's a quality difference. Even a normally intelligent eight-year-old should be able to understand that some people think there is such a difference.
 
Gaith said:
You "really don't understand" that some people see a vast difference in the writing quality? I'm not asking if you agree there's a quality difference. Even a normally intelligent eight-year-old should be able to understand that some people think there is such a difference.
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I guess my understanding is more in the area of manners.

It’s clear that people think there’s a difference, and in a way I agree: the quality of The Acolyte’s writing is better than that of most of the other SW series, other than Andor.
 
oktay said:
Look, for someone who doesn't know anything about Hollywood, who only knows that there are a lot of meetings in Hollywood and that not every project gets a green light, and who doesn't know how major Hollywood companies operate, the cancellation of announced projects and the firing of directors during filming casts a negative image of Lucas Film.
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The problem stems mostly from the fact that Disney wants something to show off at their investors meetings, so they put pressure on Lucasfilm or Marvel to announce new projects which aren't ready for the public to know about. When Lucasfilm realizes these projects are doomed, they wisely abandon them so as not to sink any more money into them, despite the appearances of cancelling something already publicly announced. Marvel on the other hand sticks with it since the public is aware of it, and that has likely contributed to some of their more recent failures.

Investors meetings and the need to show off at them is the bane of modern studios. They're also the reason why Paramount has announced about half a dozen fourth Kelvin Timeline Star Trek movies over the past decade.
 
FredH said:
I guess my understanding is more in the area of manners.

It’s clear that people think there’s a difference, and in a way I agree: the quality of The Acolyte’s writing is better than that of most of the other SW series, other than Andor.
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Cool, so, might I respectfully suggest that, as a general principle, one should avoid saying "I don't get" why others have x opinion one might not share, because I find that it generally implies, whether intended or not, that such other people are so obviously and objectively wrong that there can surely be no sense or intelligence behind that opinion, and thus the remark reads as a thinly veiled insult. :)


As for The Acolyte's quality, if you're genuinely curious, I find that this video offers a compelling case against it:

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oktay said:
Your current positive outlook on Lucas Film's management has me a little annoyed.
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I'm honestly not sure how to react to this. I've enjoyed most of what we've gotten since the Disney, it hasn't all been amazing, I'd say Reisistance and The Book of Boba were just OK, but pretty much everything else I've thought was good to amazing.
oktay said:
But let me think about your discussion. Yes, if not adhering to the script on Han Solo would harm the character's journey, of course they have the right to make changes to the directors.
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The problem with not adhering to a script with these kind of movies is that things are storyboarded and laid out very specifically in order to set things up for where all the CGI effects and things are going to go, and itget a lot harder when you start going to far off of that. Yes, there little bits and pieces here and there where you can ad lib or whatever, but I got impression that Lord and Miller were going way to far with all of that.
oktay said:
I don't understand what you mean?
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I just meant that even though they played within the Star Wars rules, the directors were still able to bring their style to their shows and movies. Just watching the sequels you can very clearly see the differences between JJ Abrams and Rhian Johnson.
 
It always matters if it's financially successful. That's why DSC got five full seasons and was one of Paramount+'s tentpole series, because no matter how mediocre it often was it still made money for Paramount.
 
I mean, Laverne & Shirley made it to an eighth season where Shirley was no longer on the show but her name was still in the series title. Why? Because ABC had still been making enough money off the series after year seven to greenlight an eighth.
 
Oh, ABC and Paramount. You delightful, confusing and moneygrubbing scamps!
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