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Spoilers All Things STAR WARS - News, Speculation & Spoilers Thread

Compilation video of OT official restoration clip leaks.
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A few months ago, I looked at all the various restorations of the original trilogy, and, while I did make a decision, I absolutely hated it. More grain, less grain? What kind of color correction do I want? Preserve the gate weave? What's more authentic? What's more attractive? I just genuinely did not care. These aren't fan-edits. This isn't someone's vision of their ideal version of Star Wars. These are picayune little decisions that a viewer absolutely should not have to care about.

So, yes, I'm relieved that someone in a position of authority, and with access to the best possible materials, technology, and people, are going to make that decision for me. Personally, I think movies should have a two-cut maximum, and ideally, the second cut either needs to be radically different or just have more scenes in it. Too many versions released with obvious but countable differences makes me want to slice them all up and make a version that just has the things I like, and then what do we have? Another damn version of Star Wars.
 
I appreciate that they're doing this, but at the same it it should illustrate quite clearly why Lucas had little interest in it himself.
Carefully, painstakingly, and sensitively remastering (note: not restoring, because this is not a thing that ever existed before) a flawed, incomplete, and compromised piece of work is the job of a museum curator, not the original artist. Which is essentially what this is, and that's is how it should be.

This is an important cinematic document that should be preserved so future filmmakers can see what was achievable at the time under the circumstances, warts and all. Yes, a certain type of fan will faun over and evangelise about it ad nauseam too. Fine. Let them. The reality is that for better or worse, the "Maclunkey Cut" will be the definitive version going forward, as it was the last one Lucas had a hand in.
I'm of the opinion that restoring the GOUT shouldn't be what people saw on screens, but what they should have seen.
So cleaning up mattes and wires, but leave the lightsabers and lasers alone, except to fix compositing mistakes.
Absolutely no CGI unless the original element is unusable, in which case recreate it in CGI and re-composite.

For historical purposes they should duplicate the original cinematic masters, mattes and all, but we don't need a 4K bluray of that.

Can't remember the last time i watched Harmy but man, it was insane how much he managed to recreate the original.
Just so we're all on the same page; if there's no Emperor's slugs, we riot, right? I mean the only true and authentic version of Jedi is one with janky vfx blobs to cover-up on-set make-up errors, hovering awkwardly and distractedly during important dramatic scenes!
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yes, keep it!!! :D
 
I'm of the opinion that restoring the GOUT shouldn't be what people saw on screens, but what they should have seen.
So cleaning up mattes and wires, but leave the lightsabers and lasers alone, except to fix compositing mistakes.
Absolutely no CGI unless the original element is unusable, in which case recreate it in CGI and re-composite.

For historical purposes they should duplicate the original cinematic masters, mattes and all, but we don't need a 4K bluray of that.
I agree 1000% with every single part of this.
 
I'd also love to see a definitive Special Edition cut based largely on the 1997 release.
Proper CGI, proper coloring, cleaned up effects, Greedo etc. The BR had awful grading issues and blurry grain.
 
The Blurays just plain don't look better at all. I'll take the color grading of the 2004 and 2006 DVDs over the Blurays anyday.
 
All you need is Adywan's cut of the OT. That is all you need, unless you prefer the despecialized edition fan edits.

Even though I own them, I haven't watched an 'official' cut of any movie in the OT or PT in years. Select fan edits are an improvement in every way possible.
 
I'm of the opinion that restoring the GOUT shouldn't be what people saw on screens, but what they should have seen.
So cleaning up mattes and wires, but leave the lightsabers and lasers alone, except to fix compositing mistakes.
Absolutely no CGI unless the original element is unusable, in which case recreate it in CGI and re-composite.
In terms of cost and effort, that would be like doing the Special Editions all over again, and then some. So, not going to happen. Hell, even Lucas didn't go to that much effort to remaster the Endor space battle elements, or fix any of the myriad errors in those nightmarish complex composites. Just wasn't worth the expense.

The best you can hope for is what they're apparently doing; a sensitive clean-up job on a scan of an original print.
 
I'd also love to see a definitive Special Edition cut based largely on the 1997 release.
Proper CGI, proper coloring, cleaned up effects, Greedo etc. The BR had awful grading issues and blurry grain.

I would love an upgraded Special Edition Cut. I grew up with the special edition cut in the '90s, although I'm sure I probably watched the movies in the original VHS version when I was very young. I did watch the despecialized Edition that is around the internet and I actually really disliked it. I don't want to watch the original versions of Star Wars because I legitimately like what the special editions added way more than what the original movies had, outside of the Jabba the Hutt scene in episode 4 and I can take or leave Han shooting first.

If we could all have our ideal versions of the original trilogy mine would be the 90s special edition in HD with the Jabba the Hutt scene cut out of episode 4. I'd also be okay with the McDiarmid emperor replacement in episode 5 and Morrison's voice used for Boba Fett, which are my favorite changes to the original trilogy post the prequel movies coming out.
 
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