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Spoilers All about Kovich...

You know in the comics we have seen Trek and X-Men do crossovers. I could see him have claws come out of his hands. We find out he is Wolverine.Granted they would I guess have to get permission from Disney or something to do that. I think maybe my favorite idea isn't that he is Data but Data would later have a son. After Lal he would someday want to create another child and Kovich was his child. Geordi was like a uncle to him, while growing up and Picard like a grandpa. So he would of course want to remember them with like having the Visor and Picard Wine. In the new comics you have Data serving under Sisko on this mission so maybe he wanted to keep his baseball.
 
One if the things on display in his office seems to be inspired by the Bone gun from Cronenberg’s movie Existenz

looking at images of the actual movie prop, it’s not 1:1, which is why I say inspired
 
The baseball could simply be a replica of the one Sisko had. I mean, people have replicas of various historical items today. I could see Kovich having a replica of Sisko's baseball if the original is in a museum somewhere on Bajor, IMO...
It could be Babe Ruth's first home run or any historic ball.

What if he knows it's Sisko's ball but not yet. I mean, Daniels is the one to give him that ball and the one on Sisko's desk was previously owned by Daniels.
I could buy that :lol:
 
I would've made him an El-Aurian, and have said so before, but that's just me.
That would make a lot of sense. The character has the weight of someone who has lived centuries.
He could be part El-Aurian, giving him a lifespan of maybe a couple of centuries instead of however long El-Aurians actually live. He did tell Trip that he was "more or less" human.

I'm cool with Kovich being an older Daniels. It does make sense. The only thing I thought was a little silly about that reveal scene was him having very specific relics like Geordi's VISOR and (supposedly) Sisko's baseball. Although I do give them props (ha!) for correctly using a bourguignonne wine bottle for the Chateau Picard rather then the bordelaise bottles we typically see it in (La Barre is in Burgundy, not Bordeaux).
 
It actually occurs in the episode "Space Babies."

From Den of Geek:

It is, among everything else happening in “Space Babies“, a pretty throwaway line. [The Doctor's new companion] Ruby Sunday notices the TARDIS has landed indoors, and says “Is that like a matter transporter, like in Star Trek?” And the Doctor answers, “We’ve got to visit them one day!

[...]

In his memoir/stack of emails that got turned into a book, The Writer’s Tale, written with Benjamin Cook, [Doctor Who showrunner Russell T.] Davies writes “I would so love to see the Doctor on board the Starship Enterprise, puncturing all that Starfleet pomposity with his sheer Doctor-ness.”

He goes on to say that “When we began in 2004, Star Trek: Enterprise was still on air, and I told [producer] Julie [Gardner], in all seriousness, that I wanted to do a Doctor Who/Star Trek crossover. It was on our list of plans, until Star Trek: Enterprise was axed.”​

There's also an officially licensed comic, Assimilation², where the 11th Doctor lands on the Enterprise-D and discovers that the Cybermen and the Borg are in reality-spanning cahoots.

Star-Trek-The-Next-Generation-Doctor-Who-Assimilation-3.jpg


My favourite bit is a flashback to the 4th Doctor meeting the TOS crew and trying to persuade Spock to try a jelly baby...
 
There's also an officially licensed comic, Assimilation², where the 11th Doctor lands on the Enterprise-D and discovers that the Cybermen and the Borg are in reality-spanning cahoots.

Star-Trek-The-Next-Generation-Doctor-Who-Assimilation-3.jpg


My favourite bit is a flashback to the 4th Doctor meeting the TOS crew and trying to persuade Spock to try a jelly baby...
Who?
 
I'm watching "Cold Front", the first of the Daniels episodes. I skipped over the "Faith of the Heart" intro. It's so weird seeing Starfleet still finding its way through things. Daniels looks like someone super-eager to please Archer. I'm about a third of the way through the episode. Super-eager Daniels versus weathered "seen it all" Kovich. Daniels/Kovich is definitely early in his career.

EDITED TO ADD: I'm on "Shockwave" now. The second of Daniels' appearances. I'll never NOT think of the Transformer when I see that title. https://images.app.goo.gl/aprQiSDVQdrCgveP7

In "Shockwave", Daniels more like what I'd expect a Young Kovich to sound like. And now he sounds a lot more experienced. More time must have passed for him from his perspective than Archer's.

DOUBLE-EDIT: I skipped over most of "Carpenter Street". I just watched the one scene Daniels was in where he's talking about how time's been changed but it hasn't rippled to his time yet. Nothing too informative. Putting on "Azati Prime".

I skipped straight to the scene with Daniels and Archer on the Enterprise-J. (Klingons are part of the Federation in the 26th Century? That's interesting...) The Sphere Builders that Daniels warns Archer about have the ability to see Alternate Timelines. Something Daniels can also possibly do since, as Kovich, he knows about the Kelvin Timeline.

Scanning through the rest of the episode, it looks Daniels is only in that one scene, to tell Archer what he has to do, while Archer, in full George W Bush 9/11 Mode, struggles. Onto "Zero Hour"! Not to be confused with DC Comics' Zero Hour.

TRIPLE-EDIT: Daniels scene around the 10:00-mark in "Zero Hour". Putting that on. Daniels shows Archer the founding of the Federation in the near-future. Daniels says Archer is about to make history. God, I hate Macho Season 3 Archer. But anyway...

Okay, I've seen that scene. Skipping to "Storm Front".

QUADRUPLE-EDIT: Watching all the scenes with Daniels in Sickbay. He says that the Temporal Cold War is no longer a cold war and has gone hot. "Each faction is trying to wipe each other out. It's a fight for dominance." The War is destroying all of time. Vos is the first of the participants. Daniels has sent the NX-01 back to the 1940s where Vos can be stopped. If Archer succeeds "the war will never happen and the timeline will be restored."

Time for Part II. Skipping to the end. Vos is stopped. Then a scene between Archer and Daniels as the timeline resets. Daniels says the war is "Coming to an end because of what you did. You have no idea how many lives you've saved." And that's it.

In summation: Time travel was originally for research only; it was agreed upon through the Temporal Accords among all who had the technology until different factions started using it for more, then that led to the Temporal Cold War and finally the Temporal War, which has now ended. Then Discovery comes along in fills in the gap, stating time-travel was banned after the Temporal War.

All works for me. But what about Kovich being Daniels?
 
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If I squint, I can see Kovich being Daniels. It works. I don't think that's what I would've preferred, but I can see why the Discovery writers would want to connect the two characters. Kovich knows so much about all the different time periods because he's been to them. He lived through it. They still could've done that without him being Daniels, but I'm not going to beat up the DSC writers over it.

Okay, that only took three-and-half hours. I watched all of "Cold Front" and most of "Shockwave" but then I got to a point where was like, "I don't want to spend too much time on this. I want to find what I'm looking for and be done."
 
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I'm watching "Dead Stop", the first of the Daniels episodes.
Dead Stop wasn't a Daniels episode. Dead Stop was a second season episode where they end up at an automated alien repair station after being damaged by the Romulan mine in the episode Minefield.

The first Daniels episode was Cold Front.
 
Dead Stop wasn't a Daniels episode. Dead Stop was a second season episode where they end up at an automated alien repair station after being damaged by the Romulan mine in the episode Minefield.

The first Daniels episode was Cold Front.
Shoot me in the head. I meant "Cold Front". I fixed it in the post. Thanks!

I also meant "Shockwave" instead of "Storm Front" in the following post, so that's also been fixed.

That's what I get for watching and typing late at night about a show I don't know that well. I remembered the episode number S1 E11, but the title itself didn't stick in my head. My mind kept wanting to say "Dead Stop". Guess I like that for an episode title...
 
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Now we know who the recurring villain of Starfleet Academy.

Future Guy: Tremble in fear cadets! It is I, Future Guy, sworn enemy of Dr. Kovich, or Daniels, or whatever he calls himself these days. I have been the bane of the Federation since before the Federation existed! President Archer trembled at the very mention of my na--

Tilly: Strictly speaking, weren't you from the 28th century? So really, we should be calling you "Past Guy" not "Future Guy".

Future Guy: :mad:
 
Sounds like a quest from Fallout.
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The only issue with this reveal is that ENT Daniels was VERY VERY CLEARLY bald and wearing a toupee, when Kovich has a full glorious head of silver hair.

Before you suggest it, hair plugs were banned during the Eugenics Wars.
 
The only issue with this reveal is that ENT Daniels was VERY VERY CLEARLY bald and wearing a toupee, when Kovich has a full glorious head of silver hair.

Before you suggest it, hair plugs were banned during the Eugenics Wars.

Future science. Just put some hair seeds on your head. Spray some water on them. Put a sleeping cap on your head. Then go to bed and when you wake up you got a rich, luxurious head of hair on your head.
 
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