aliens not ruined by Star Trek

[Deckerd]

In the spirit of the other thread I thought we could ponder on the aliens they got right.

IMO the Jem'Hadar were consistently written throughout. The writers did toy once with the one who was able to survive without white but that was only one slip. They were always mysterious, formidable, loyal and incorruptible.

 

[nx1701g]

Grey Aliens because they never appeared

The Tholians stayed the same in their appearances.

 

[Ensign_Redshirt]

I'm still a bit disappointed that we have never seen a full-blown Jem'Hadar rebellion or a Dominion/Jem'Hadar Civil War (see the Season 4 episodes "Hippcratic Oath" and "To the Death" for example).

They seem to have laid this to a rest as soon as the Dominion War had started. Surely a missed opportunity. After the war had begun, the Federation could have tried to stir up a Jem'Hadar rebellion (maybe with Odo's help and maybe even with some Section 31 involvement). A sub-plot could have been the Federation's attempt in developing a "cure" for Ketracel White addiction. Would have made more sense than the "Prophets close the wormhole at the last possible minute" deus ex machina as a mean to turn the table against the Dominion. Of course, after the end of such a rebellion the Federation would have to deal with the winner... be it founders and their loyal Jem'Hadar or the rebels. But the Federation would have at least bought itself some time and the winning side in the Jem'Hadar rebellion would have been weakened in any case.

Another possibility: The Dominion War could have been portrayed earlier in the series (maybe Seasons 5 and 6) and the final season would have portrayed its immediate effects and repercussions... a Jem'Hadar rebellion in the Gamma Quadrant after the Dominion had been weakened by its defeat in the war against the Federation, for example.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

DS9 sure got the Cardassians right.

The Vulcans have been smacked around a little - DS9's overly-pissy Vulcs for instance - but ENT's S4 reversed what little damage had teen done.

And Star Trek should get credit for never actually having ruined or significantly damaged the Romulans - just left them too much alone. Still abundant opportunity to develop them correctly.

 

[The Wormhole]

Actually, I kind of wish DS9 had done more with the Jem'Hadar. Really the only Jem'Hadar centred episodes were Hippocratic Oath, To The Death, and Rocks And Shoals. Now, I know someone's going to say that if they focused on them too much it would have lead to overexposure, but I think there was room for one or two more Jem'Hadar centred episodes. They were a fascinating race.

 

[RobertScorpio]

In the spirit of the other thread I thought we could ponder on the aliens they got right.

IMO the Jem'Hadar were consistently written throughout. The writers did toy once with the one who was able to survive without white but that was only one slip. They were always mysterious, formidable, loyal and incorruptible.

Huh..i thought that episode was one of the better JEM HEDAR ones. I like episodes (or movies ala SYBOK) that show us that not all of a race are the same...and certainly the leader of that pack of Jem Hedar was different than the usual stereo'typed Jem Hedar...Sybok is great for the same reason. I mean, must all Vulcans have dark hair and talk like Buddist monks? God I hope not....there had to be SOME vulcans with individuality in their souls...

Rob
scorpio

 

[trekkiebaggio]

I don't think either the Cardassians or the Ferengi were ruined (I know a lot of people will disagree about the Ferengi).

A lot of species we've known about for ages but haven't really been touched upon beyond a few characters (like Betazoids or Bolians.)

Out of the major players (Romulans, Klingons, Vulcans) only the Romulans have remained consistent.

 

[JiNX-01]

I love what ENT did with the Andorians and the Orions.
Not so much with the Klingons: See Marauders: First Fraidy-Cat Klingons Ever.

 

[Damask]

I love the Vorta.

The only (very small) thing I disliked about the Jem'Hadar was in "To The Death". It's when they start getting pissed at Odo. I much preferred it in "Faith, Trachery...." when Weyoun states that he didn't think the Jem'Hadar would shoot at Odo even if ordered to. Like that characterization.

 

[Dale]

The more I learned about the Ferengi, the more I enjoyed them. Yes, they were played as comic relief, but I still think their culture was pretty well explored and was well-reasoned.

I particualry like the episode (name escapes me) where Quark and Rom went home and they showed the "disclaimers" ritual when a visitor enters a Ferengi home:

Call: "My house is my house..."

Answer: "... as are its contents."

 

[mr.peany]

The Gorn. Thought they were kinda cool in ENT.

 

[M'Sharak]

The more I learned about the Ferengi, the more I enjoyed them. Yes, they were played as comic relief, but I still think their culture was pretty well explored and was well-reasoned.

I particualry like the episode (name escapes me) where Quark and Rom went home and they showed the "disclaimers" ritual when a visitor enters a Ferengi home:

Call: "My house is my house..."

Answer: "... as are its contents."

"Family Business" was the episode.

 

[nx1701g]

^ Then again if a visitor offered to buy something I wonder if they'd be turned down...

 

[pookha]

The Gorn. Thought they were kinda cool in ENT.

especially since at the end we got their point of view..



the andorians.
liked what enterprise did with them.

 

[The Boy Who Cried Worf]

The Ferengi were on of the few Trek races who got better as the years went on. Going from the cartoon retarded capitalist trolls in TNG 1 to Quark's powerful anti-war speech in The Siege of AR-558 was a major improvement.

The Jem'Hadar were always written much better than we had any right to expect. They could have easily been mindless tin soldiers, but they were very much like the Klingons, aggressive by their very nature,but with strong codes of loyalty and even friendship.

 

[Jack Bauer]

Andorians. There really wasn't all that much canonical info on them until Enterprise brought them back. They were used really well on that show. Hell, they made them cooler than ever.Especially with them ice powers.

 

[SFRabid]

Yes, Enterprise Andorians and Gorn.

 

[Jono]

The Ferengi were on of the few Trek races who got better as the years went on. Going from the cartoon retarded capitalist trolls in TNG 1 to Quark's powerful anti-war speech in The Siege of AR-558 was a major improvement.

The Jem'Hadar were always written much better than we had any right to expect. They could have easily been mindless tin soldiers, but they were very much like the Klingons, aggressive by their very nature,but with strong codes of loyalty and even friendship.

I agree. The Ferengi did really benefit from their exposure on Deep Space 9 because the show focused on what could be considered a regular Ferengi citizen and not a member of a species/government military force, which is what we usually see in terms of aliens. In fact if you think about it the Ferengi are probably one of the best developed species, maybe even more so then humans. When we see Humans they are normally part of Starfleet, but we don't get to see a lot of a ordinary humans life/perspective in the 24th century.

The Vulcans I think were interesting. I'll admit at the start of Enterprise I did not like how the Vulcans were portrayed but with further development I could understand why they were the way they were and how they changed from Ent to the familiar versions we know of TOS and the TNG era.

As someone pointed out the Andorians got some need exposure in Enterprise. Really the only major species that has not had the exposure it should are the Tellarites, they were founding members of the Federation yet we know little about them.

 

[Finn]

Ktarians (tho one could get confused with that TNG episode...)
Talarians (we hear about them few times aside from that episode)
Talaxian

 

[mattwitz]

I always thought that they consistently wrote the vulcan characters very well. The Andorians were also really well done in my opinion. Notable mentions:
Denobulans- always managed to bring some charm and humour to any episode they were in.
Viidians- managed to present a complex and thoughtful view of a once great society having to resort to organ harvesting to survive as a species.
Xindi- loved how each subspecie was so different