Alien5: It's a Bug Hunt (pre-release thread)
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Interesting; very interesting. I wonder how Scott feels about this.
Here's hoping Alien3 and 4, neither of which I've seen nor care to, are revealed to have been one big hypersleep nightmare.
Also, Bring Back Newt!
Hallelujah !
I've been desperately wanting to unwatch Alien 3 since my mate and I adjourned directly from cinema to pub, crying into our beer 'How the **** could they do THAT to Aliens ?'.
Alien 3 was nonsensical - where did the eggs on the Sulaco come from, let alone the facehuggers ?
How did they get into the cryotubes ?
Why render the whole dramatic thrust of Aliens impotent by killing Newt ?
Why the **** would you write Hicks out ?
God I loathe that ******* movie.
We shared a brain in 1993 (or whenever that abortion came out - I can't muster the desire to care).
It was just...............
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And we can celebrate ! Good things come to those that wait...
P.s. fans of 3 and 4 can still consider them both cloning experiments by 'The Company'. It'll take a little handwave, but it's what I'll do !
So does this mean Weyland Yutani goes back to just being an evil megacorp and not the secret dark master of humanity they apparently morphed into between Aliens and Alien 3?
Because that was one of the things about Alien 3 that confused the hell out of me.
I hated Superman Returns but this will be different. Superman Returns tried to capture the same magic from Superman I- II and be a sequel to those movies. Without any of the cast from those movies but instead actors (who in a certain light) resemble the original actors. Routh especially was told to act like Chris Reeve. Well Singer's fanfic/love letter didn't inspire audiences to want to sit through his 2 hour and 30 minute movie repeatedly. Critics loved it though. Not surprisingly.
Here we are getting Weaver, Bhein and presumably and actress to play Newt. I trust Blompkamp to learn from the past mistakes of the previous Alien films (Alien 3, Ressurection, AvP, AvP 2) when crafting his movie. I don't hate Alien 3 but it definitely could've been better and was not a way should've gone Ripley out with.
Didn't the 90's novels series go down this route of Alien 3 being a hypersleep dream and the bulk of the story being set on Earth?
Personally I don't much care for the idea of Aliens on Earth. It always struck me as a boring setting as we've seen "monster(s) on Earth killing all the humans" HUNDREDS of times. Plus the AvP films already did that and it was crap. Twice.
I feel like it can't work unless the environment is hostile and the action is contained. So a spaceship/station, a moon base or some alien world are the best candidates. What might be interesting is a world that's already been infested for thousands of years. The idea has always been that these things were weapons in some ancient war, so it might be interesting to see one of the casualties of that war. I envision an ecologically dead world that covered with towering, monolithic xeno nests that have all gone dormant with no more prey left to infest and everything in between is a barren wasteland. Not an alien homeworld per se (they don't have one, because they're engineered lifeforms) but an alien dominated world.
Personally I don't much care for the idea of Aliens on Earth. It always struck me as a boring setting as we've seen "monster(s) on Earth killing all the humans" HUNDREDS of times. Plus the AvP films already did that and it was crap. Twice.
I feel like it can't work unless the environment is hostile and the action is contained. So a spaceship/station, a moon base or some alien world are the best candidates. What might be interesting is a world that's already been infested for thousands of years. The idea has always been that these things were weapons in some ancient war, so it might be interesting to see one of the casualties of that war. I envision an ecologically dead world that covered with towering, monolithic xeno nests that have all gone dormant with no more prey left to infest and everything in between is a barren wasteland. Not an alien homeworld per se (they don't have one, because they're engineered lifeforms) but an alien dominated world.
The whole movie doesn't need to take place on Earth. I want the movie to end up on Earth and that it becomes the alien 'home world'.
This is where they could really tie-in Prometheus 2 to Alien 5. The Engineers created the Xenomorphes and it ends up backfiring on them - destroying their civilization.
And consistent with the dead Engineer from Alien, and that it looks like one of their bio-weapons killed most of the Engineers in Prometheus.
I just want them to find a way to reconcile this new movie with Alien3 and Resurrection, even if it's just a throwaway line about cloning or alternate realities or something. I know they're not the most popular movies out there, but I've grown to like them, and I consider them part of Ripley's story, so it would be weird to just ignore them completely.
Agreed, after Alien Alien3 is my second favourite of the series, let the stones fly.
This would hardly be the first major continuity issue in the franchise (for example, how do you reconcile the later films with Alien vs. Predator? i.e. Charles Bishop Weyland vs. Peter Weyland), so I think this is also doable.
Don't forget the other continuity gaffe. About how the Queen from Aliens was able to lay two eggs on the ship Ripley, Hicks and Newt escaped on. When right before the final fight we see Ripely destroy the queen's egg sack.
Alien3 we learn Ripely has been infected (somehow) with a queen embryo and there was another xenomorph egg in the crash that infected a cow in the prison.
Well, 4 could stand 'as is'. For 3, who is to say it wasn't really set at the same time as 4, even if 'The Company' set it up so 'Ripley' didn't know that :
As part of the cloning project from 4 they want to 'accidentally' free a queen in a confined population for breeding and research. Another viable Ripley clone and embryo are dropped onto the prison planet with two cloned bodies and a specially programmed copy of the Bishop synthetic who feeds her the BS about eggs on the Sulaco...
Couldn't agree me, sorry but I've never really liked the last two Alien films. But that doesn't mean that this film will be any better. It'll be interesting to see where they take it, perhaps set decades after Aliens a distress signal is recieved with a brief image of an Xenomorph and being the only people with practical experiance Hicks and Ripley are sent as part of the rescue team.
No, but by not killing Newt offscreen, Aliens hasn't been undermined, and the presence of Hicks has got to be a huge bonus.
From a start like that they could still screw it all up, but it's a great starting point !
Yeah, "Resurrection" is actually a lot easier to resolve. It takes place 200 years later, and there could be any number of ways for them to get Ripley's DNA.
Alien3 is the more difficult one to fix, since she, ya know...dies.
Maybe RIpley wakes up finds Hicks in the shower and tells him she just had the weirdest dream.
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