Alex Kurtzman on the Fine Line Between Adding to, and Staying True to, Star Trek's Canon

[Dryson]

Exactly. No reason to expect technology to be static.

Exactly. No reason to expect technology to be static.

Isn't it troubling that the new UI is one step closer to be a Borg implant? The old starship controls were done with fast hand and finger movements where the input caused a mechanical reaction to occur. Now the input are hand and finger movements that cause a mechanical reaction to occur by operating the mechanical device manually using VR UI.

Wouldn't the next step that is taken logically be to create the VR UI interface inside of the mind where millions of actions and reactions used to manually control a mechanical device outside of the body would be located between each of the synapse in the brain?

 

[Danja]

Plot wise, that would just be Voyager again.

Or Disco S3.

 

[Grendelsbayne]

Not really, seeing as how Voyager was still set in our galaxy, just a different quadrant. We would get to see new aliens and ship types and investigate new alien philosophies along with even possibly studying ancient civilizations that have gone extinct. Civilizations that have gone extinct but are very similar to Earth civilizations that have gone extinct.
Our galaxy, while lacking the usual galactic bulge common to spiral galaxies, it has instead, a highly radioactive region due to a galactic collision in the distant past.
https://scifi.stackexchange.com/que...ove-the-galactic-plane-to-get-back-home/34541

Although there is the Great Barrier, the fact that our galaxy collided with another galaxy in the past does open a means of connecting both galaxies. If both galaxies did collide they would have created galactic dust trails as they moved apart.

Dust trails that species, such as Ripper the Tardigrade, could use to travel between each galaxy. Basically the dust trails could allow give Mycelial Network capable species the ability to travel between each galaxy and possibly even build colonies along the way somehow.

Our galaxy or a different one makes no difference when dealing with all new ships and species.

 

[Mudd]

They could have done every bit of that on Voyager.

 

[WebLurker]

Starting to wonder if it's time for a hard canon reboot and/or for us to just accept that the franchise no longer has an air-tight continuity and just consider it along the lines of stuff like the X-Men movies, the Transformers stuff, or TMNT.

 

[Beckerjr]

Starting to wonder if it's time for a hard canon reboot and/or for us to just accept that the franchise no longer has an air-tight continuity and just consider it along the lines of stuff like the X-Men movies, the Transformers stuff, or TMNT.

Star Trek stopped having "air-tight" continuity decades ago. The 'cannon police' will never stop complaining. It's what they do.

 

[WebLurker]

Star Trek stopped having "air-tight" continuity decades ago. The 'cannon police' will never stop complaining. It's what they do.

When was that? I seem to recall stuff working pretty well until the Kelvin movies (all IMHO).

 

[F. King Daniel]

When was that? I seem to recall stuff working pretty well until the Kelvin movies (all IMHO).

Yep, airtight until 2009.

 

[WebLurker]

Yep, airtight until 2009.

Fair enough. Heck, just remembered that the cartoon has a few discrepancies with everything else (even if the most commonly assumed rule seems to be "ignore the mistakes in the cartoon and embrace the stuff that fits"). That said, the Klingon change was explained down the line to make a unified whole, instead of being left hanging like say how the X-Men or Transformers movies contradict themselves all the time to the point that trying to view them as a series telling a set of stories that go together is near-impossible.

Maybe a fairer thing to say would be that the TV shows TOS - ENT plus the first ten movies offered a block of (relatively) airtight continuity by the time it was over and/or that the '90s iterations of the franchise didn't take a "revisionist" look at what came before like some of the newer projects are?

(Also, what book is that?)

 

[The Old Mixer]

Yep, airtight until 2009.

Nerdrage, 1979 Style

 

[Dale Sams]

Star Trek stopped having "air-tight" continuity decades ago. The 'cannon police' will never stop complaining. It's what they do.

If they don't get the intro right...I riot.

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[F. King Daniel]

Fair enough. Heck, just remembered that the cartoon has a few discrepancies with everything else (even if the most commonly assumed rule seems to be "ignore the mistakes in the cartoon and embrace the stuff that fits"). That said, the Klingon change was explained down the line to make a unified whole, instead of being left hanging like say how the X-Men or Transformers movies contradict themselves all the time to the point that trying to view them as a series telling a set of stories that go together is near-impossible.

Maybe a fairer thing to say would be that the TV shows TOS - ENT plus the first ten movies offered a block of (relatively) airtight continuity by the time it was over and/or that the '90s iterations of the franchise didn't take a "revisionist" look at what came before like some of the newer projects are?

While a deliberate rewrite of Trek's look and story is a 2009-and-onward thing, Trek's continuity was always an illusion. Zephram Cochrane was recast and given a totally different personality between "Metamorphosis" and First Contact, for example. How come TNG had genetically engineered humans in "Unnatural Selection" and then in DS9 genetic engineering had been illegal since the 1990's? Why is Data the only android known, and Odo the only shapeshifter when TOS had plenty of each?

(Also, what book is that?)

Best of Trek, either #1 or #2 I can't recall.

 

[Dale Sams]

Not only was he recast....he was given an entirely new birthplace. Screw Alpha Centauri!!!

 

[fireproof78]

Androids are probably the biggest inconsistent detail.

 

[thribs]

You'd think with them making the Romulans looks like their TOS versions in Picard they would have done the same thing with the Klingons.

 

[Dale Sams]

Androids are probably the biggest inconsistent detail.

In my head canon:

Lurch is a true android....the others in that ep arn't sentient. Korby in that ep probably came closest buttttt,,,,

The creatures in the Mudd ep are closer to robots and don't seem sentient.

And Soong got started with what was left in Return to Tomorrow....in my head.