Seven walked a tightrope for four years. She had a choice of either being "human" or being thrown out an airlock.
Don't recall Seven being threatened with being thrown off the ship, even when she did try to double-cross them early on.
Seven walked a tightrope for four years. She had a choice of either being "human" or being thrown out an airlock.
Don't recall Seven being threatened with being thrown off the ship, even when she did try to double-cross them early on.
Her contribution to the crew?They tried it once.
What was to keep them from doing it again?
No?Seven walked a tightrope for four years. She had a choice of either being "human" or being thrown out an airlock.
They tried it once.
What was to keep them from doing it again?
Don't recall Seven being threatened with being thrown off the ship, even when she did try to double-cross them early on.
When was that?
When? Because, Janeway and Chakotay feel very much responsible for her by the end. So, if the threat was there it was directed at an agent of the Borg, not Seven as a person.It was an implied threat.
Scorpion, Part II
JANEWAY: Leave them. How is our passenger?
CHAKOTAY: The Doctor says she's stabilising. Her human cells are starting to regenerate.
JANEWAY: I wonder what's left under all that Borg technology. If she can ever become human again.
CHAKOTAY: You plan to keep her on board.
JANEWAY: We pulled the plug. We're responsible for what happens to her now.
CHAKOTAY: She was assimilated at a very young age. The Collective's all she knows. She might not want to stay.
JANEWAY: I think she might. We have something the Borg could never offer. Friendship.
It was an implied threat.
Scorpion, Part II
I reviewed the transcript and I cannot figure out what is being alluded to.Was that before or after they decided to keep her after pulling her out of the Collective? I really don't remember them threatening to do that after.
I reviewed the transcript and I cannot figure out what is being alluded to.
Yeah, I always felt that Seven was (narratively) kind of a replacement goldfish for B'Elanna for Janeway, as the younger female character Janeway gives guidance to, since at the point she is introduced B'Elanna is at a much more stable place. So I never had the feeling that Seven was ever in danger of being thrown out by Janeway. Quite the opposite actually, since Janeway has issues with letting things go (she will time travel at the drop of a hat, after all.Seven became Janeways pet project almost from the get go.
There's no way in Hell she would have ever have followed with any threat like that, implied or not.
As far as Janeway was concerned, Annika was entitled to all the rights of a Federation Member once they brought her on board and the Doctor started removing the implants.
Not sure what that has to do with this thread.
Why not? It's pretty obvious.
Disco appears to have gone back to the future vis a vis Enterprise.
Really, it appears to have gone fishing in hobbyist CG groups online - it's a hodge-podge of overly familiar fan riffs on the Enterprise.
It really isn't. It has nothing in common with any fan designs.Really, it appears to have gone fishing in hobbyist CG groups online - it's a hodge-podge of overly familiar fan riffs on the Enterprise.
Seven became Janeway's pet project almost from the get go.
There's no way in Hell she would have ever have followed through with any threat like that, implied or not.
As far as Janeway was concerned, Annika was entitled to all the rights of a Federation Citizen once they brought her on board and the Doctor started removing the implants.
Yeah, I always felt that Seven was (narratively) kind of a replacement goldfish for B'Elanna for Janeway, as the younger female character Janeway gives guidance to, since at the point she is introduced B'Elanna is at a much more stable place. So I never had the feeling that Seven was ever in danger of being thrown out by Janeway. Quite the opposite actually, since Janeway has issues with letting things go (she will time travel at the drop of a hat, after all.).
"The Raven", "Retrospect", and especially "Dark Frontier" and "Endgame" are all proof that Janeway would do anything to keep Seven with them and would rescue her no matter what.Seven walked a tightrope for four years. She had a choice of either being "human" or being thrown out an airlock.
That's what I'm wondering about too. Janeway was as by-the-book as possible unless it struck her fancy to do otherwise. I'm imagining that Picard and his new crew will be the polar opposite.I agree ... she's DEFINITELY her own person.
Vis a vis Picard: lately, I've had visions of Seven being a 24th century Elsa (Difference between Seven and Elsa: When Seven goes all out, she packs heat!)
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Picard has now changed the game completely. How many of Janeway's edicts are going to stick?
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