Are we sure Landis and/or his people aren’t feeding us a line that the story would have always ended that way? It’s not like he is/was a credible person.
News Alec Baldwin Accidentally Shoots & Kills Cinematographer, Wounds Director with Prop Gun
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We were mentioning films that were finished despite an actor's death, not how, where or when that death occurred.
Alec Baldwin not allowed to drink alcohol, own gun after not guilty plea in ‘Rust’ shooting: These are fairly common conditions of pretrial release for a charge like this but I suspect one of them might be harder on him than the other.
It wouldn't have been in his best interests to lie about that. Even if the characters were always supposed to die, I don't think it affects the criminal case against him one way or the other.
Landis did say that he considered just forgetting the whole thing and cutting out ALL of the footage but decided it would be unfair to Vic Morrow's memory. I suppose that could be construed as trying to drum up sympathy for himself, but I think he actually does have a point. Cutting all the footage would, arguably, be worse.
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I was speculating he lied about how it was supposed to end in order to defend the movie, not the criminal case.
Looks like manslaughter charges are to be dropped against Baldwin https://variety.com/2023/film/news/...So74kF9WJMPrr5-0wZWst7KcmOFXNjt-lxrlj9ikb5xAs
Feels good to lose the beard (that he grew for Rust), says Alec Baldwin, an early contender for the Read the Room Awards 2023 https://variety.com/2023/film/news/...8_u6T5otLgeirWfuELOxsegqaQFR1cGEN1O33QmqlC_Ts
“The charges against Alec Baldwin were dismissed without prejudice because a possible malfunction of the gun significantly affects causation with regard to Baldwin, not with regard to Gutierrez. If it is determined that the gun did not malfunction, charges against Mr. Baldwin will proceed. The prosecution anticipates making a final charging decision with regard to Mr. Baldwin within the next sixty days,” prosecutors said in a June court filing.
The fact he (one might argue) lied about pulling the trigger is the kind of thing that police and prosecutors consider in determining whether to charge. OTOH, it doesn't necessarily mean he realized it was not firing blanks.
My personal gut feeling is that they may cut a deal under which the prosecution agrees to file a charge to which he agrees to in advance, with a stipulated sentence of probation or maybe some house arrest.
Prosecutors investigating Rust shooting intend to bring involuntary manslaughter charge against Alec Baldwin before a grand jury
New Mexico prosecutors intend to recharge actor Alec Baldwin with involuntary manslaughter in connection with the fatal 2021 “Rust” shooting, two sources familiar with the matter tells NBC News.
The source adds that Baldwin’s case will be brought before a grand jury in mid-November. There had been recent discussions of a plea deal, according to two sources familiar with the matter.
One of the sources tells NBC News that after further investigation, prosecutors no longer believe the gun had been modified and have found new evidence that they believe connects Baldwin to recklessness around safety standards on the set.
I'm still not convinced there won't be a plea deal even if he's recharged, in lieu of formal indictment.
New Mexico prosecutors intend to recharge actor Alec Baldwin with involuntary manslaughter in connection with the fatal 2021 “Rust” shooting, two sources familiar with the matter tells NBC News.
The source adds that Baldwin’s case will be brought before a grand jury in mid-November. There had been recent discussions of a plea deal, according to two sources familiar with the matter.
One of the sources tells NBC News that after further investigation, prosecutors no longer believe the gun had been modified and have found new evidence that they believe connects Baldwin to recklessness around safety standards on the set.
I'm still not convinced there won't be a plea deal even if he's recharged, in lieu of formal indictment.
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Prosecutor inadvertently gives Rust armorer attorney/client texts to key witness.
https://variety.com/2024/film/news/rust-armorer-texts-given-to-key-witness-1235877977/amp/
https://variety.com/2024/film/news/rust-armorer-texts-given-to-key-witness-1235877977/amp/
Alec Baldwin waved gun around on Rust film set before fatal shooting, court hears
Geez. Never wave a gun, loaded or unloaded, around and never, ever, point it at anyone or anything you don't intend to shoot.
The footage played on Thursday showed Mr Baldwin gesticulating with a pistol loaded with blanks and firing the gun within close proximity to camera operators, the AFP news agency reported.
He was also seen asking Ms Gutierrez-Reed why she didn't have more weapons ready.
After the director called "cut", he said: "One more! One more! One more! Right away! Let's reload!"
He was also heard saying: "We should have two guns and both we're reloading."
Firearms expert Bryan Carpenter, a prosecution witness, said Ms Gutierrez-Reed should not have allowed herself to be hurried.
"Rushing with firearms and telling someone to rush with firearms is not normal nor accepted," he told the court.
"In a situation like that, when you're getting rushed to that extent, that's when safety starts to fall by the wayside."
Asked about footage of Mr Baldwin showing crew members how he would hold the gun, Mr Carpenter replied: "He's using the weapon as a pointing stick."
He was also seen asking Ms Gutierrez-Reed why she didn't have more weapons ready.
After the director called "cut", he said: "One more! One more! One more! Right away! Let's reload!"
He was also heard saying: "We should have two guns and both we're reloading."
Firearms expert Bryan Carpenter, a prosecution witness, said Ms Gutierrez-Reed should not have allowed herself to be hurried.
"Rushing with firearms and telling someone to rush with firearms is not normal nor accepted," he told the court.
"In a situation like that, when you're getting rushed to that extent, that's when safety starts to fall by the wayside."
Asked about footage of Mr Baldwin showing crew members how he would hold the gun, Mr Carpenter replied: "He's using the weapon as a pointing stick."
Geez. Never wave a gun, loaded or unloaded, around and never, ever, point it at anyone or anything you don't intend to shoot.
It should have been as inert and harmless as a stick. It’s a prop.
Who knew the bear wasn't the deadliest animal starring in this movie?
And not a thoughtless pig of any size.
The Shadow knows! (Just showed our age.)
Unless the take required an actual firearm, a prop replica should have been used instead.