News Alec Baldwin Accidentally Shoots & Kills Cinematographer, Wounds Director with Prop Gun

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  1. Sci

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    I want to know more about the underlying cause of why safety seems to have been so lackidasical in general on the set -- not just from the armorer but apparently from other departments too, since there was a walk-off. In particular I want to know what role the other producers played in creating these conditions -- did they put pressure on the crew to cut corners on safety for the sake of saving money?
     
  2. Timby

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    That's generally what happens in situations like these, and it's precisely what happened when Brandon Lee was killed while filming The Crow.
     
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    If that's the case, I wonder what kinds of criminal and civil penalties those producers might also face.
     
  4. XCV330

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    Baldwin WAS the producer.
    Since Souza was one of the people shot, he's not exactly going to get prosecuted, and Baldwin won't be prosecuted for shooting him.
     
  5. the G-man

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    New allegations from the court documents. If true, some of these are pretty damning:

    Mary Carmack-Altwies, the Santa Fe district attorney, reported that the Oscar-nominated actor and producer of the film was not present for firearms training prior to the start of filming - and when an hour-long training session was scheduled, he appeared uninterested and was on his cell phone.

    Her team found 'reckless deviation from known standards and practice and protocol', noting that Hutchins was killed during an unscheduled rehearsal, during which the standard two safety checks were not carried out, and for which a plastic gun should have been used. ****

    Among the papers filed on Tuesday is a ten-page probable cause affidavit - divided into two sections. One notes Baldwin's actions as the lead actor, and another explores his role as the film's primary producer.

    Prosecutors note that Baldwin was absent from an initial firearms training session.

    Gutierrez-Reed set up an hour-long subsequent session for Baldwin, but they only completed 30 minutes.

    'According to Reed, Baldwin was distracted and talking on his cell phone to his family during the training,' the prosecutors stated.

    The affidavit claims Baldwin gave 'inconsistent accounts' about how the shooting happened - first telling police he 'fired' the gun, then insisting he did not pull the trigger.

    Prosecutors state that 'photos and videos clearly show Baldwin, multiple times, with his finger inside the trigger guard and on the trigger.'
    Even if not criminally liable, essentially blowing off (no pun intended) the safety training is inexcusable.

    Beyond that, inconsistent accounts, even if due to faulty memory or otherwise made in good faith, are a major red flag for law enforcement. Yet another reason why you don't talk to the police without an attorney present.
     
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  6. Timby

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    Baldwin was literally charged with involuntary manslaughter yesterday.
     
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  7. XCV330

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    “No charges will be filed in the shooting of Souza” from what I read. That was the context of what I meant
     
  8. J.T.B.

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    You probably shouldn't go on TV and make statements about the case, either. But there is a certain level of a-hole that thinks they can ignore little things that apply to common people.
     
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  9. the G-man

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    Baldwin is one of the best actors of his generation. But he's never been really good about keeping his mouth shut.
     
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    We're going to have to agree to disagree on Baldwin's abilities as an actor. From "Beetlejuice" to "Mission Impossible," he's always compelling and, in some things--Miami Blues, Malice, Glengarry Glen Ross, the Departed, even 30 Rock--he's near-brilliant.
     
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  12. Captaindemotion

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    I’d have to second this. He can come across like an ass at times and he’s been occasionally miscast but when he’s on fire onscreen, he’s brilliant.