Akoochemoya

[Ragitsu]

Replacement goldfish.

 

[MarkusTay]

I challenge you to find a single scifi/horror/fantasy series that did NOT use the idea of lead characters being killed and brought back.

I was gonna say GoT just for laughs, but then we had John Snow...

So to go with another show that loved killing off main characters, TWD.
Of course, you could also argue EVERYONE comes back. LOL

And some shows go the 'Dexter route' with returning characters.

I actually stopped reading comics years ago because of this - death meant nothing. There was no sense of real danger after that. Also, any show with any sort of 'time travel' (like ST) muddies the waters as well. When you've been to both ends of the timestream, you've seen everyone live, and everyone die... it no longer matters (attitude borrowed from Doctor Who, but vastly para-phrased).

 

[Ragitsu]

How do we know you're the real MarkusTay?

 

[MarkusTay]

There is but one MarkusTay... a thought, a concept, an enigma. A brain the size of a planet* with the maturity of a ten-year-old. And so it goes.


*shameless Hitchhiker's Guide joke stolen

 

[Oddish]

And one Oddish. Who has similar maturity without the enormous brain.

 

[Tango]

Ooooh, a new list! Can I play too?

ANDROMEDA
BABYLON 5
BATTLESTAR GALACTICA
DARK ANGEL
EARTH FINAL CONFLICT
EUREKA
FARSCAPE
HERCULES
seaQuest
SLIDERS
SMALLVILLE
SPACE: 1999
Every STAR TREK series
Every STARGATE series
STRANGER THINGS
SUPERNATURAL (everyone died at least twice, except Crowley, who only died once)
TEKWAR
THE TOMORROW PEOPLE
THE X-FILES
XENA

 

[fireproof78]

I guess my point is that, in Star Trek, death is not necessarily a done deal. They can always bring you back via anything from android bodies to time travel to alternate universes... Picard might call death the "ultimate boundary", but it's actually pretty porous.

Which is why people complaining about "that death was cheap" rings rather hollow to me. I don't care about if they die and come back; I care very much about the choices that got them there in the first place.

 

[Ragitsu]

Tekwar?

 

[fireproof78]

Tekwar?

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[trekshark]

Oh man, i forgot about tekwar. I remember watching it, back when independent stations still existed.

 

[Lynx]

Dax came back, bringing all of Jadzia's memories. And Tasha Yar from an alternate universe is still Tasha Yar.

Honestly, it would have been better if Jadzia simply have left by getting a post on some other ship or station and that Ezri could have been her sister.

The whole Trill thing is too much over the top for me.

The same with the "alternate universe" Tasha and the confusing Sela story.
It would have been better if they hadn't killed of Tasha. In that case he could have been a recurring character in some episodes.

 

[fireproof78]

Killing Tasha, like Kes' departure, made their respective slows a little lesser in my eyes.

 

[at Quark's]

Honestly, it would have been better if Jadzia simply have left by getting a post on some other ship or station and that Ezri could have been her sister.

That solution might have been problematic. After all, they had Worf and Jadzia married, with a child on the way. It would not be likely that they would voluntarily split up for long amounts of time, and that would mean they'd have to write Worf out of the series, too.

 

[Farscape One]

Jadzia wasn't pregnant. Bashir just said the treatments she was given to allow conception to happen were working.

 

[at Quark's]

Jadzia wasn't pregnant. Bashir just said the treatments she was given to allow conception to happen were working.

Ah, it seems I misremembered that.

I still think it would mean they would probably be very unwilling to split up for longer amounts of time. Perhaps Jadzia could have transferend to a 'civilian' job on DS9, so that we simply didn't see her anymore (but supposedly still livng together with Worf), or a position on Bajor (away from DS9 but still easily in reach by shuttle or transporter).

 

[Lynx]

That solution might have been problematic. After all, they had Worf and Jadzia married, with a child on the way. It would not be likely that they would voluntarily split up for long amounts of time, and that would mean they'd have to write Worf out of the series, too.

Not necessarily.
Only for season 7.
Jadzia could have got a posting on, let's say the Enterprise and because of the war become separated from Worf until the end of the war. Maybe we could have had a reunification between them in the last episode if farrell had agreed to make a guest appearance.

 

[Oddish]

Farrell would have been fine with multiple guest appearances. She wanted to be reduced to a recurring character, not removed entirely. Killing her off was the producer's decision.

 

[Kor]

Behind-the-scenes contractual stuff notwithstanding, from a storytelling point of view Jadzia's absence in the WYLB montage is a huge gaping hole.

Kor

 

[Oddish]

The decision to eliminate Jadzia instead of simply using her less was one of DS9's relatively few missteps.

 

[Ragitsu]

one of DS9's relatively few missteps.

Emphasizing religion, capitalism and war over exploration and diplomacy.