Agents of SHIELD: Season 3 - Discussion (SPOILERS LIKELY)

[Gaith]

Well, obviously the solution is to add lots of nudity to Agent Carter. I'd be willing to bite the bullet and accept that compromise...

Has Peggy even ever... done it? (Has Cap?)

She said an ep or two ago that she hadn't taken any vacation days since Pearl Harbor, and didn't seem to be joking, which doesn't bode well for trysts, and so far as we know she's had no boyfriends apart from her fiance...

 

[JD]

If you mean Hayley Atwell, then I think her character had a backside nude scene in Pillars of The Earth. It's been a while, but I'm pretty sure I remember seeing that, but I can't remember if you could see her face to tell if it was Atwell or a body double.

 

[Reverend]

Has Peggy even ever... done it? (Has Cap?)

She said an ep or two ago that she hadn't taken any vacation days since Pearl Harbor, and didn't seem to be joking, which doesn't bode well for trysts, and so far as we know she's had no boyfriends apart from her fiance...

There's a big difference between "no paid leave" and "no off duty time". It's not like she hasn't had any personal time since December '41. As for whether or not she's ever had a shag; I haven't the slightest idea, nor do I care one way or the other.

As for Steve...I think it's possible since they did seem to imply he was at the very least "inexperienced" (recalling the "fondue misunderstanding") but again, it's hardly either here nor there.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Hayley Atwell thinks that they had sex, but Chris Evans isn't so sure.

 

[Skywalker]

I think I agree with Evans on that one. I always took the whole thing about the two of them still owing each other a dance in TFA both literally and metaphorically. I'm kind of inclined to think that maybe he's not a virgin anymore in the modern era (mainly because of the "I'm 95, I'm not dead!" line and a couple other lines in The Winter Soldier) but I wouldn't be surprised if he still was.

 

[Gaith]

There's a big difference between "no paid leave" and "no off duty time". It's not like she hasn't had any personal time since December '41.

I don't know about yours, but in my book, it clearly says that if you have a partner and aren't taking some vacation days here and there for romance and rumpusing, especially if you live in Manhattan, you're not doing right by your partner. Chapter 7, page 62.

And I totally agree with Evans and Skywalker. It's weird to contradict the actress herself, but Atwell's entirely wrong there, IMO.

 

[Commander Richard]

There was no opportunity in the 40s. He was a skinny runt, then he became full-time Captain America. So no sex with Carter.

I'm not really familiar with Netflix, I just know their Marvel shows are 'dark.' I hope you're right. I think Marvel is pretty proud of Agent Carter, so maybe they will want to keep it going.

Give 'em a shot. They're good. Movie quality shows on TV.

 

[bbjeg]

There was that knocking out the Red Skull montage. Months had to have gone by with the troop transfers between cities, that walk he did from behind enemy lines, setting up that zip lines between mountains, not to forget that USA show he went on the road for. Anything could have happened in the span of that movie.

 

[RJDiogenes]

Give 'em a shot. They're good. Movie quality shows on TV.

I'm tempted to try out Jessica Jones because I loved Alias so much, but I'm just so deathly sick of the dark'n'gritty approach that I can't work up the gumption.

 

[Myko]

I think JJ was dark, but not gritty. Daredevil was both.

 

[Tosk]

Dark and gritty is stepping in a cat-box with the lights off. DD and JJ are just damn good TV.

 

[Reverend]

I don't know about yours, but in my book, it clearly says that if you have a partner and aren't taking some vacation days here and there for romance and rumpusing, especially if you live in Manhattan, you're not doing right by your partner. Chapter 7, page 62.

And I totally agree with Evans and Skywalker. It's weird to contradict the actress herself, but Atwell's entirely wrong there, IMO.

Who said anything about having a partner? We're only talking about a shag, not whether she set up house-keeping with someone.

Do people really think that just because back in the 40's society *expected* women not to have sex out of wedlock that they never did?

 

[Christopher]

I still find it ironic that the supposedly "darker" Netflix shows are the only MCU productions (other than Ant-Man) whose protagonists show any reluctance to use lethal force.

 

[Commander Richard]

I'm tempted to try out Jessica Jones because I loved Alias so much, but I'm just so deathly sick of the dark'n'gritty approach that I can't work up the gumption.

They probably do fit the dark trope as mentioned already but mostly they're closer to serious grounded drama without losing the core of who the characters are. They have also social relevance, especially Jessica Jones, and they give you a look into what the Marvel universe looks like from the perspective of ordinary everyday people in the New York neighborhoods.

 

[RJDiogenes]

They probably do fit the dark trope as mentioned already but mostly they're closer to serious grounded drama without losing the core of who the characters are. They have also social relevance, especially Jessica Jones, and they give you a look into what the Marvel universe looks like from the perspective of ordinary everyday people in the New York neighborhoods.

Which is fine, but I don't have much interest in the MCU. I've only seen two of the movies and my interest in SHIELD and Agent Carter have little or nothing to do with their MCU connection. The Netflix shows are just not the sort of thing that interest me.

 

[Reverend]

Which is fine, but I don't have much interest in the MCU. I've only seen two of the movies and my interest in SHIELD and Agent Carter have little or nothing to do with their MCU connection. The Netflix shows are just not the sort of thing that interest me.

For what it's worth, the Netflix shows have little to no direct connection to the wider MCU. They're very much their own thing.
Indeed what few references there are to the events from the film (specifically, 'Avengers' since these are based in New York) are pretty oblique.

You could honestly watch these shows having ZERO knowledge of the marvel movies or comics and not miss a single beat.

It's really just a matter of whether or not the content itself interests you. Daredevil is sort of a mob crime drama where the protagonists are a tiny independent law firm in a rough neighbourhood. It's not pretty or feel good, but it's very compelling. The star of the show though is Fisk, by a mile. His presence dominates before you see him or even hear his name.

Jessica Jones is more of a psychological drama and (very broadly speaking) is about how a person deals with surviving abuse. Though decidedly modern, it's has a lot of Noir in it's DNA; centring around a hard drinking, emotionally damaged private investigator looking to escape a past and other such associated tropes. The villain is arguably even scarier than Fisk but in an almost entirely different way. I say "almost" because there's one point of convergence that he shares with Fisk and for that matter Jessica & Matt too.

 

[JD]

I'd say that Kilgrave is a lot scarier than Fisk. I don't want to say too much, but what Kilgrave is capable of takes him to a whole other level IMO.

 

[Timelord79 (he/him)]

Ok, here is a scary thought: Fisk meeting Kilgrave

 

[bbjeg]

Not that scary for Kilgrave if you ask me.

 

[Timelord79 (he/him)]

Certainly for everyone else